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Obvious violation of WP:NOT#INFO, no evidence that any of those stadiums" listed even meet WP:GNG, or if they are considered to be stadiums at all. Delete Secret account 01:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment I wondered if there might be scope for turning this into an article on 6-man teams/the 6-man game in Texas, but I'm not sure even that is notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 13 J

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  • Obvious violation of WP:NOT#INFO, no evidence that any of those stadiums" listed even meet WP:GNG, or if they are considered to be stadiums at all. Delete Secret account 01:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment I wondered if there might be scope for turning this into an article on 6-man teams/the 6-man game in Texas, but I'm not sure even that is notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 13 J
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  • Obvious violation of WP:NOT#INFO, no evidence that any of those stadiums" listed even meet WP:GNG, or if they are considered to be stadiums at all. Delete Secret account 01:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment I wondered if there might be scope for turning this into an article on 6-man teams/the 6-man game in Texas, but I'm not sure even that is notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment There is a similar article List of American football stadiums by capacity for traditional American football stadiums. If this can be shown to meet WP:LISTN for a standalone list, which is less stringent than WP:GNG, a list of stadiums is not unprecedented. Here is one article from The New York Times on one stadium, which apparently is a different size than regular football and lacked bleachers (this one at least).—Bagumba (talk) 16:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Keep - Inclusion in Six-man football would bog down the piece. That's the merge target if it comes to that... The information appears accurate. It's a distinct variant of the game popular in Texas and I can't for the life of me imagine how deleting the piece would improve the encyclopedia. Carrite (talk) 19:45, 13 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment The nomination statement erroneously concludes that some of these stadiums must be themselves notable. Per WP:NNC, individual entries in a list need not be notable, and the nomination statement appears ignorant of WP:LISTN. I've never heard of the game before, but I suspect adequate sourcing to discuss the fields as a whole can probably be found. Jclemens (talk) 05:52, 14 June 2012 (UTC) * Comment I'm reading in a little bias on behalf of the nominator, with the statement "if they are considered to be stadiums at all" ... let's show a little good faith please.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC) * I meant to say if there's any sources out there that they are considered as stadiums. I Goggled checked several of these alleged stadiums and some of them the only sources about them is the some guy named Texas Bob personal website in the bottom of the link. All those places listed don't meet GNG, and some of them have obvious WP:V issues as there's no sources that mentions if it's a real "stadium", or just a park with a section for football games which most of them listed seems to be. Secret account 04:44, 18 June 2012 (UTC) * I wouldn't object to renaming the article List of six-man football fields in Texas, but that to me is a minor change and not worthy of AFD. The article Stadium defines "a place or venue for (mostly) outdoor sports, concerts, or other events and consists of a field or stage either partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed to allow spectators to stand or sit and view the event." If even they have a partial set of bleachers, that meets the minimum definition. But wanna rename it to "field" that's okay by me.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 04:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC) * Keep I'm ready to take a position in this discussion after some reflection. I have decided that the subject meets WP:LISTN. My research in 6-man football shows it to be a unique enough sport and this list can help to display its geographic impact. I'd like to see some additional information added, including a few images of some of the stadiums and if possible a map showing their locations. It's good that we have capacity for each one, and it's nice to see such a broad range of seating capacity (150 to 2500 I believe) so I can see how this article can really add to the article on six-man football. I also would like to see some more sources added (there's got to be stadium history information in papers online). Overall, it would be too clumsy of an article to combine with the six-man article so we're left with this list. I do suggest alternate titles as list of "fields" or "venues" rather than "stadiums" to avoid confusion.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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