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| - If I put this in the wrong place or anything please move it where it belongs so people can get to test it. Vertigo Inc I had a feeling I forgot something, thanks for moving it Life Guardian :) Channeling+Feigned for Mantra of Earth+LoD? Life Guardian 11:03, March 7, 2010 (UTC) I tried mantra of earth , but found it annoying that I had to immediately reapply it after casting SF, or I would loose a lot of armor for some time before it recharged. Though It does work as long as it's reused right after you cast SF. As for LoD it initially give same damage as Cry of Pain under the SF limit (21 at 12 Shadow Arts), but without the degen and longer recharge Vertigo Inc Damn, i keep forgetting about the stupid damage cap. That's the second time i've suggested that on an SF bar =\. Also forgot th
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| - If I put this in the wrong place or anything please move it where it belongs so people can get to test it. Vertigo Inc I had a feeling I forgot something, thanks for moving it Life Guardian :) Channeling+Feigned for Mantra of Earth+LoD? Life Guardian 11:03, March 7, 2010 (UTC) I tried mantra of earth , but found it annoying that I had to immediately reapply it after casting SF, or I would loose a lot of armor for some time before it recharged. Though It does work as long as it's reused right after you cast SF. As for LoD it initially give same damage as Cry of Pain under the SF limit (21 at 12 Shadow Arts), but without the degen and longer recharge Vertigo Inc Damn, i keep forgetting about the stupid damage cap. That's the second time i've suggested that on an SF bar =\. Also forgot they were both stances...sigh, i need more sleep. Life Guardian 20:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC) Can it work with ele? :) God Kamil Not this exact setup, since you need both mesmer and assassin skills to fill the bar, I know there are Ele setups for this that also can do it under 4 minutes though :) Vertigo Inc I suppose you can use this for the ele: Build:E/Me Obsidian Flesh Vaettir Farmer latest posts on talk page say it's working still. That build can clear in 2-3 minutes. Life Guardian 20:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC) I put on a timer and did a few runs with the Me/A bar, I do have max ranks though, but I clocked average runs in between 3 mins 40 sec to near 4 mins with this Me/A build. I've been told the Ele bar can run between 2-3 mins on average, so the difference could be up to 1 min on these builds efficiency. Though this is a alternative for those wanting to use mesmer characters if no Ele available or by preference, it's nice to know exactly what the difference is :) Vertigo Inc Might want to try this tbh. Life Guardian 21:36, March 7, 2010 (UTC) Looked at the W build, looks nice, perhaps I'll dust off my W soon. I'm still going to use this build on mesmer while getting drunk minutes though ;) I'll make some minor adjustments in decription I think, then I hope someone can give some feedback after having tested this setup for mesmer. Vertigo Inc mantra of earth--Relyk talk 01:31, March 9, 2010 (UTC) I tried mantra of earth, but since it got a recharge of 20 sec, and you need to use Deadly Paradox before Shadow Form you will cancel it, then immidiately reaply it after casting Shadow form. You might say "You Are All Weaklings" replace it completely since it will make all damage taken 0, while if I used Mantra of Earth I would still take some damage. In all making the build more unreliable Vertigo Inc Build looks great. I think it will be competing with the new 100b build, though this has the advantage because the other needs a hero to steal half the drops. --Chieftain Alex "talk" 23:18, March 11, 2010 (UTC) Thanks, and thanks for the cleanup of the page :) I will add a couple more videos and adjust the guide a litte, just some minor details, after that I don't think it's much more to add realy. Did Runs with weekend drops now, and got them down to 4 mins when picking up all the loot. Had to get the PVE skill "You Are All Weaklings" on my sin before I could test the reversed setup today. Vertigo Inc
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