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- It is easy to create analogy like this to view your views, like giving the kid a shot with the 5 Pillars of Islam. The problem really is that throughout this whole program, not once has Ray or Kirk attempted to provide any solid empirical evidence for their claims. Instead, they use analogies like these and nothing more, nothing useful or testable or even knowable.
- Jesus was not the first to point of the Golden Rule, it goes back to the philosophies of Egypt, Greece, Persia, and more. This is just a feeble attempt to give credibility to Jesus. Ryan makes a valid point. Those who only do good just to be good are more moral than those who are good just for a reward to to avoid punishment.
- Does God see everything? Can God create a box that he cannot look into? If God see's everything, then he knew evil would be present on earth long before he considered creating it. Again, Ray sets up a problem that only his God can fix by playing with their emotions. He also does not explain which Commandments he is going to use .
- Again, this scenario is set up that everyone is guilty and only Kirk's version of religion is the solution. As people sadly know, not all parachutes work. Jews and several scholars would argue that the atonement of Jesus is flawed and sins do not need a blood sacrifice for forgiveness.
- This scenario is purposely set up to be unfavorable to everyone, and only Kirk's concept of God is the judge, and his God condemns everyone who has sinned, and in Christianity's case this is everyone. This tactic puts everyone into a corner, and then evangelicals like Kirk provide, what they believe, the only solution.
In Ray Comfort's book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can't Make Him Think, in chapter 8, section 6, Ray says that a judge who dismisses a criminal's charges is merciful. Ray firmly believes that God is a merciful God, but apparently only merciful to Christians.
- What is God's standards of right an wrong? Does he say "x, y, z is wrong because of this and that?; or does he say they are wrong because he simply says so?" If it is the former, then right and wrong do exist independent of God's standards. If it is the latter, then God can make genocide and abortion right and tolerance wrong.
- Ryan is correct that many gospels did not make it into the Bible, such as the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Timothy, and several others. It is also true that the Bible was have today is not the same as the original version, some texts were taken out of the Bible.
- Kirk does not explain, or even know, what a "genuine" Christian is. A Christian believes in Jesus, but there are about 30,000 different denominations with conflicting views of Jesus and God . Ray Comfort claiming in a debate with the Rational Response Squad that a Christian is someone who is converted by God himself.
When a Christian performs horrible acts, Christians try to claim they are not real Christians or not Christians at all. Hitler was a Roman Catholic, he was baptized and believed in Jesus, but was he a "genuine" Christian?
- Being unable to answer a question does not mean Comfort's position wins by default.
- Of course, through this entire episode neither Ray or Kirk will explain how the conscience came to be through the fields of zoology, sociology, and evolution. Perhaps they do not know anything about those fields of science and their role on the conscience or they intentionally do not want to inform the audience about this . Both Ray and Kirk will be basing their claims regarding the conscience purely on religious grounds and faith.
- "Lost" only by his definition. Ray claims to be looking at the Ten Commandments, but which ones? The ones in Exodus 20, Exodus 34, or Deuteronomy 5? Using the Ten Commandments alone does not provide proof of god anymore than the 5 Pillars of Islam proves Allah. Ray only uses the Ten Commandments to set a problem that only his God could fix. Ray uses guilt, dishonesty, and appeal to emotion to force them into a position where they need Ray's god.
Ray calls the Ten Commandments the "prefect Law of Liberty." How can this be? The Ten Commandments do not say anything regarding discrimination, rape, slavery, child abuse, pollution, etc. Liberty means "freedom of choice" or "immunity from arbitrary exercise of authority: political independence" but how can this be when the first commandment says there is only one God and he is everyone's god? This god is pushing absolute authority onto everyone. Do people not have the liberty to choose their own god or not god? Where in the Ten Commandments, or the Bible, does it say that people can support themselves, or "We, the People" can form our own government?
- man's mind is at war with irrational silly superstitions, not a supreme being because it does not exist. Claiming God wrote on all the hearts of man is no more valid than the Islamic belief that Allah wrote his law on our souls before we were born. Any moral person who reads the horrors of God of the Bible will quickly conclude that God has no moral conscience and is unlike humans.
- Where is Ray's evidence that the brain is created like a calculator? Ray will deny this, but the truth is our brains are the products of evolution, not special creation. What if we damage our brains badly before we die and many of our thoughts and memories are lost forever. Do our souls fix themselves and then God watches the recording?
- Best wishes to Ryan, who did a great job in the interview. Many would argue that reading the Bible is the quickest way to atheism. Daniel Dennet notes that there are hundreds of pastors ad priests out there who no longer believe what they preach, but are afraid to come out in fear of losing everything.
- This story of Jesus and the angry crowd about to stone an adulterer does not appear in the original gospels at all. This section of the story was later added into the gospel several hundreds of years after Jesus supposedly died, written by a person who never met Jesus.
- More and more analogies, but no proof. You can simply replace these scenarios as a Muslim, Scientologist, Mormon, or whatever instead of Christian and the analogy works just as effective. There lies the problem, Ray and Kirk do not provide any evidence for their claims at all to give them more credibility than that of any other faith known and unknown to man.
- Ray says god has given everyone a conscience, but what about evil people like Saddam Hussein, Hitler, certain Popes, and many others?
Do all cultures know it is wrong to lie and steal? Stealing is against the law, but not lying. What if you had to lie in order to save someone's life? What about folk heroes like Robbin Hood, a thief and outlaw? What about fornication and lust, how can it be wrong? The point to survival is to reproduce. Lust is a natural part of humanity, and many people trained in psychology will testify that lust is involuntarily. Christianity made lust a sin, making everyone born of sin, so everyone cannot escape sin and thus are damned by their God unless people repent.
Ray claims "God has written his work on our hearts" so we are basically without excuse, but this does not prove God any more than the Primordial Covenant in Islam proves Allah It is common for religions to include a system that links all human beings as being created by a specific creator and humans are without excuse, such as "thetans" in Scientology
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