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| - Hey folks, the zboard people dropped me a line wanting to send out a keyboard for review. The keyboard IS Guild Wars-specific, so I figure this is not out of the scope of the site. What do you think? I personally don't want the thing, so I figured if one of you did, you can have it. Mods have first dibs. Gravewit 10:52, 15 June 2006 (CDT) I'm interested, but if anyone has a viable contest idea I would support using it as contest prize. On the other hand, maybe PvP ppl should be given preference, since they might be able to review it better. -User:PanSola (talk to the Image:Follower of Lyssa.png) 10:58, 15 June 2006 (CDT) It would be so cool to have one, but I think there are people who need it more. A contest sounds good. How about something that rewards helping the wiki in some way? --Image:Gem-icon-sm.png 11:04, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Btw: Can they send it outside North America? I don't think so. --Image:Gem-icon-sm.png 11:05, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Got a picture of it?--Draygo Korvan 11:06, 15 June 2006 (CDT) A contest sounds good. --Xeeron 11:42, 15 June 2006 (CDT) A link from guildwars.com: --Image:Gem-icon-sm.png 13:40, 15 June 2006 (CDT) What a nice keyboard.. :D --WichmanN 15:04, 15 June 2006 (CDT) The Zboard is overrated bullpoop. And no version exists for left-handed users. -- Image:Bishop icon2.png Bishop [rap|con] 15:08, 15 June 2006 (CDT) What do you mean with "left-handed users"?... --WichmanN 15:21, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Oh, and if you use anyhting else than a US qwerty, this is useless. The (in Finland) very often used ä and ö (and the useless å) are not to be found in the US keyboards. --Image:Gem-icon-sm.png 15:24, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Well then maybe its not so good if you, like me, comes from Denmark where we use: æ, ø and å... :'( --WichmanN 15:29, 15 June 2006 (CDT) I tried it out at the GW display at E3, and I was not impressed. The side board doesn't have the necessary target keys close enough to the movement keys to make my style of playing practical. So all it gives after that are nice graphics and labeled keys. --Thervold 19:22, 15 August 2006 (CDT) Hmmm, I would think we need to look at this more objectively. Who gets the keyboard is not as relevant as "what will they be looking for?" If we agree on that, it doesn't really matter who gets the keyboard. Also, whoever gets the keyboard should have the time and the capacity to test it in different environments. Mainly, RA and TA then HoH then GvG and then Challenge Missions, Competitive missions and finally, PvE. I would recommend Xeeron, he is an admin and a person able to look at things fairly objectively. The only catch is that he is in Germany I believe. Can you ship that far, Gravewit? --Karlos 17:12, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Last time I checked I was no admin =) More important, German keyboards use special keys as well (öäü), so I guess it would not work for me as well. Sounds like this will be for US/english users only. --Xeeron 17:37, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Maybe I need one, stupid edit conflict, current non detachable keyboard holding me back! Xeeron should be an admin, the RFA vote is at 8/0/0 but Phil hasn't done it yet. I was going to say Xeeron would be good "because I think he's pretty fair and even handed, probably useful traits to have if you're a reviewer" so maybe we'll have to go for plan B, you know some kinda crazy deathmatch, 2 people enter, one walks out, and have a draw like the world cup. Geez Xeeron you could have just said yes instead of forcing the GuildWiki community to fight to the death over it, which is the only fair competition I can think of :P --Xasxas256 17:43, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Just a quick side note on becoming admin: Skuld had the most positiv votes and he became admin, which is exactly the way it should work in my opinion. If we need further admins, we can go to the next person in line. --Xeeron 03:14, 16 June 2006 (CDT) Hmm, you're not an admin? When did you get demoted? :) Anyways, we need to know Gravewit's shipping abilities. I am in the US and I can do it. I can pretty much easily test it in any playing style. Those interested should indicate which playing styles they can or cannot cover. If you're an ardent PvE guy then you are not very useful in testing this. You should also be competent in PvP. --Karlos 18:21, 15 June 2006 (CDT) I think it's a bad idea for the GuildWiki to host Guild Wars-related product reviews. By their very nature these will not be neutral articles. Note that we don't have guild pages, fanfiction, fancomics, "journals" (except in user pages) and so on because the reason has always been that it is impossible to be objective about such content. We don't even have an official review of Guild Wars! There is also the issue of whether we should have such overtly commercial content in the wiki (reviews, unless they are pans, are glorified advertisements). I think the gamewikis blog is a much better place for such product review articles. — Stabber ✍ 18:31, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Upon further review, I agree with Stabber. It's not really what we do. This is product placement. The entry for ZBoard should be the same as that for Ventrilo or TeamSpeak. Just a basic description of what that is. Not a review/thumbs up/thumbs down. We're not gonna put a user manual in the wiki for how to use it either. --Karlos 19:13, 15 June 2006 (CDT) Oh, the review is supposed to go in the wiki? That doesn't sound too good to me. But it's not too bad either because it is a directly GW related product. As long as the review is neutral and formal I'm ok with it. --Image:Gem-icon-sm.png 02:10, 16 June 2006 (CDT) I think it should be halfway between Team Speak and Prima Guide. The art work had to be licensed from Anet, and the GuildWars.com homepage has a square-ish banner for the zBoard. -User:PanSola (talk to the Image:Follower of Lyssa.png) 03:18, 16 June 2006 (CDT) They must be desperate to get rid of them if they're trying to offload one onto you Phil ;) I don't think it's necessarily outside the scope of the site, but I agree with Stabber. Imagine if we were to create the article Zboard or something. What would it actually contain? It's always been understood that articles on the GuildWiki should only contain factual information, so we'd just have to say "Here are some pictures, it's used to control Guild Wars". If we decided to change our policy and review it then we'd be opening the doors to all kinds of articles. By the time you've read this message Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer will be up for Peer Review. <LordBiro>/<Talk> 08:40, 16 June 2006 (CDT) So... no one has any contest ideas right? -User:PanSola (talk to the Image:Follower of Lyssa.png) 07:39, 19 June 2006 (CDT) I suppose I can just tell them 'no', then. Gravewit 13:24, 20 June 2006 (CDT) If they expect a review article on guildwiki, then the answer is probably no. If they just want to give one out for promotion, then I won't mind taking one. I can post a review on my person blog that no one reads at all d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the Image:Follower of Lyssa.png) 03:57, 21 June 2006 (CDT) Even though I do get mine delivered tomorrow (with swedish key layout), I agree with Stabber, Karlos, Gem, etc. It would just mean free marketing for them. So I believe it's safe to say no. — Galil Image:Ranger-icon-small.png 16:08, 20 June 2006 (CDT)
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