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I noticed something very odd when I went on the wiki the other day, and talking on chat with people seems to have confirmed what I suspected. On June 23 CrimsonAssassin, completely out of the blue, decided to permanently ban four users; Tr0llis, Fritzmet, Harvenard2, and Mscoree.As you can see on this page there is no explanation from Crim as to why this is. I believe these bans are completely unwarranted, given that not only were none of these users breaking any of the wiki’s rules or causing harm whatsoever, one of them, Mscoree, hasn’t even been on the wiki in weeks, thus meaning he couldn’t possibly have committed any sort of crime, especially not one worthy of a permanent ban.

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  • I noticed something very odd when I went on the wiki the other day, and talking on chat with people seems to have confirmed what I suspected. On June 23 CrimsonAssassin, completely out of the blue, decided to permanently ban four users; Tr0llis, Fritzmet, Harvenard2, and Mscoree.As you can see on this page there is no explanation from Crim as to why this is. I believe these bans are completely unwarranted, given that not only were none of these users breaking any of the wiki’s rules or causing harm whatsoever, one of them, Mscoree, hasn’t even been on the wiki in weeks, thus meaning he couldn’t possibly have committed any sort of crime, especially not one worthy of a permanent ban.
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  • I noticed something very odd when I went on the wiki the other day, and talking on chat with people seems to have confirmed what I suspected. On June 23 CrimsonAssassin, completely out of the blue, decided to permanently ban four users; Tr0llis, Fritzmet, Harvenard2, and Mscoree.As you can see on this page there is no explanation from Crim as to why this is. I believe these bans are completely unwarranted, given that not only were none of these users breaking any of the wiki’s rules or causing harm whatsoever, one of them, Mscoree, hasn’t even been on the wiki in weeks, thus meaning he couldn’t possibly have committed any sort of crime, especially not one worthy of a permanent ban. From what I’ve gathered on chat and through people’s talk pages, a dispute began between Crim and Tr0llis the other day when Tr0llis signed up to play Principia Moderni IV. On that page it notes that no one is forbidden from playing unless otherwise stated, and furthermore Tr0llis apparently got the approval of three moderators; Josh, Rex, and Nathan, whether tentative or not, that he would be allowed to play in the game. I say tentatively because their approval was in part dependant of the approval of Scraw, the head moderator, but I notice that Scraw never objected to Tr0llis either. Despite all this, however, Crim, in his capacity as a regular player of the game (not a moderator), decided to remove Tr0llis (and others) from the game. When this was detected and the moderators gave Tr0llis the permission to add himself back, Crim still did not accept it. Perhaps it was that Crim felt he could not “win” the map game if people he disliked were in any position of power, or perhaps he just did not like them playing the same game, but the fact of the matter is he had no right to remove a fellow player from the game, especially after the moderators allowed Tr0llis into the game. What Crim did more or less constitutes vandalism, but that is more of a map game matter, and not the subject of this appeal. Continuing the background information, we know that Crim seems to have a bit of a personal bias against Tr0llis (and others). From his infamous, previous permanent ban of Tr0llis, which was overturned when it was revealed that Tr0llis was falsely banned, to his numerous other bans usually stemming from discussions on chat. However, this time there was no perceived argument on chat. At least previously Crim could claim that Tr0llis or whoever was “misbehaving” on chat when he banned him for a day or two, but in these circumstances we can see that none of the victims were on chat at or around the time of the ban. In fact, Mscoree hadn’t gone on chat in perhaps weeks. So was it something they had edited? No, we see that none of them had made any recent edits, the closest one being Tr0llis’ edit of his sandbox. So let’s look at the reason Crim stated for the bans: “Mscoree remains on the wiki to harm the community and to cause trouble. He has worn out his welcome several times over and it's time we all stop being afraid when he'll return.” This doesn’t line up though, because Mscoree ‘’does not’’ remain on the wiki, in general, nor does he remain or attempt to harm the community in any way. You’d be hard pressed to find an example of him damaging the community in the last several months, especially considering he hasn’t posted much in the past few months. And arguably you could say Crim is the one harming the community here, by banning several users for no apparent reason. He says we should stop being afraid of when Mscoree returns, but as far as I can tell no one is afraid of Mscoree, and if they are they definitely shouldn’t be. The last time I saw Mscoree in chat people seemed glad to see him. He hasn’t caused anything even close to a problem in months, maybe more. Ironically, people seem to be afraid of when ‘’Crim’’ returns, given that when he does come on the wiki he leaves a trail of bans in his wake. This pattern of ban after ban from Crim, although originally attributed to the apparently poor character of the accused, seems more likely to indicate the true nature of the accuser, Crim. And just to further illustrate the point, I believe he intends to permanently ban me as well, as people were warning me to stay off chat and not make this message. But I believe I should make this message, because even though I will probably be banned I think the TSPTF needs to be alerted to this malpractice, or rather, injustice, that is taking place. Ratcolor (talk) 16:02, June 24, 2016 (UTC) Took a day for you to write a rant? Thought this would have been up within the hour of their ban. Shame. I'm not going to respond to this in length, mostly because it's a gigantic waste of time and I know it'll go over your head, but also because I sent an IP check request on you and Ms or any of the other geniuses. Even if it turns out that you aren't a sockpuppet of those four, you'll run out of steam. To everyone else, this is my massive display of power. Anyone who stands in my way will be crushed under my boot. I claim this wiki and I will rename it to Crim Wiki. You will kneel. In all seriousness, it's pretty obvious that banning those four had to happen. We've been hoping these guys don't return for six months and when they do return, nobody's happy. They think it's funny to make things harder for people here. I know people like that and the only way it's going to stop for good is if we do this. As we can see in Mitro's blog post 'What the hell happened to the Althistory Wiki,' we need to get rid of these users if we're going to get any better. That's it. Purge is over. Go back to worrying about the fallout from Brexit. This is the last time we're going to have our time wasted from any of these four. Love and Rainbows and Sparkles, Crim - 10/10 - IGN 17:51, June 24, 2016 (UTC) While I can't speak for Fritzmet and Harvenard2, I'm 100% on board with Crim's blocking of Mscoree and Tr0llis (rather surprised to see MS hadn't been blocked already). These two [alone] have proven their disobedience on more than one occasion (especially towards admins). -- NuclearVacuum File:Flag of Gagaringrad (Venusian Haven).svg 18:18, June 24, 2016 (UTC) I do fully support Crim's vigilant and justified actions against these users. I have been victim to their harassment (namely from Fritzmet and sometimes Tr0llis) and a witness to their ways of manipulation to avoid punishment. They have been given plenty of chances to redeem themselves, and have failed every chance they had. I understand that Ratcolor is close with them and will follow their path of lies and manipulation, but let us remember that if we allow this repulsive behavior to continue and/or return, then we are failing ourselves. ( 23:06, June 24, 2016 (UTC)) Not only does this make Ratcolor the fifth and final crony to be banned, this also means their wall of shame entry will be one instead of four. ez-pz. Oliver Crimwell - Lord Protector of the Wiki 00:25, June 25, 2016 (UTC) God thank you, feels alot better to have these 5 gone, they bring out the worst in all our users and have gone digging around in everybodies personal lives they can get in including me and crim. For christ sake they tried to investigate in a dickish way if someone had attempted a suicide... Feudalplague (talk) 09:27, June 25, 2016 (UTC) Okay at first I was opposed to the Crony-wide ban with no particular provocation other than their very presence, but that IP check seems pretty conclusive. Good work Crimmy. FPNow 10% edgier!!! 18:38, June 25, 2016 (UTC) Feud, strictly speaking only 1 is gone Hail Sean! (Get a free potato here)09:49, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
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