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| - This may seem nosy, but about how much money did you get? And no smartalec answers either. Because if it was alot, I can't help but think it was for the money o-o the imperialist Obviously, from a legal standpoint, I can't discuss this. Sorry. I will say this: It really wasn't for the money. Gravewit 21:53, 10 September 2007 (CDT) I understand... But seriously, I don't understand. It's all been going so well for so long, so why suddenly the change to wikia? the imperialist It really hasn't been sudden. I know the announcement might seem jarring to you users, but we aren't just jumping into this blind. Gravewit 21:59, 10 September 2007 (CDT) One more thing... will you have any say what happens to this site after the switch to the wikia servers? I mean, can you tell them which policies they can and can't remove etc.? the imperialist The policies are up to the community. This isn't something Wikia is going to interfere in. Angela 12:29, 11 September 2007 (CDT) over-reacting a bit eh? if anything changes, the site will become more popular. —The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Skakid9090 (contribs). 21:54, 10 September 2007 (CDT) Haha, that's the kind of stuff I would expect User:Karlos to say...>.> Seriously though, even if it was for the money (doubt that considering Gravewit's past stuffs), as long as it has no serious ramifications for the wiki, Who cares? Capitalism rules, remember. Image:Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 22:04, 10 September 2007 (CDT) I'm with Entropy here, really, seriously, if it doesn't hurt the Wiki, who gives a damn? Some people may end up not getting a share of the, probably pretty limited, cake, but so what? Is anyone really in this for the money? If it helps the wiki, or at least doesn't hurt it, I'm 100% in favour. PurpleXVI 07:54, 15 September 2007 (CDT) Capitalism and free markets have rendered billions of people inable to put food on their own tables tbh. - Image:Candle.jpg Krowman (talk • contribs) 01:09, 11 September 2007 (CDT) Oh please , no more political crap , this is why I stay away from politics..Cardsharp 01:21, 11 September 2007 (CDT) Because of disagreement or contest? 0.o Apathy only makes you part of the problem. Get politically involved, get out and vote etc. - Image:Candle.jpg Krowman (talk • contribs) 10:59, 11 September 2007 (CDT) If they have a table. — Nova Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg — (contribs) 15:11, 12 September 2007 (CDT) Ok, just two things I want to say here. 1) (Directed towards Gravewit) No one really cares about you getting the money, and as far as I know, from a legal standpoint it is perfectly fine for you to talk about how much you received. This whole situation can be compared to when a smaller company is bought by a bigger one, like YouTube being bought by Google. When that happened, we knew, if not exactly, approximately how much the guys at YouTube were getting paid by Google. Again, nobody really cares, were all just curious, and those who have contributed to cost for servers, hardware, etc., would probably like a little bit of that money. 2) (Directed at the capitalism stuff) Capitalism is just a bigger, cleaner version of caveman-style survival-of-the-fittest. If non of this existed and we were all still in the stone age, we would still have to fight for food, and the smarter or stronger ones would get it. The same applies today. Capitalism is just a way for the smarter people in the world to get more money out of it, and by doing so taking food and luxuries away from people in other parts of the world. Now, let me clarify my position, I am completely for the move, I think we will get more users and more contributions, and there won't be as much of a strain on those community members who run it right now. It's just that I, like many others, are curious about how much money was actually involved in the deal, and why you sold rather than gave it to them if it "really wasn't for the money." -Blaster 68.142.38.222 21:44, 16 September 2007 (CDT) Well, many contracts and agreements include in them clauses preventing the discussion of certain aspects of the contract, such as recompensation. Even if it were legally viable, if someone just paid you a huge amount of cash and assets, and has numerous connections to keep you riding on the gravy train if you remain buddy-buddy with them, would you find it advisable to spill information they asked you not to? Youtube was a for-profit company which proudly proclaimed its ad revenues to be in the 10's of millions per month, sometime before the purchase by Google. As such, they always had the right to make money, and it was, in fact, expected. I don't know who you're speaking for, but I can assure you, not everyone is "perfectly fine" with gravewit making money, on a site explicitly understood to be not-for-profit. Capitalism is all well and good, but do you remember the industrial revolution in America? Companies saved so much on not having to use safe machinery, compensate injured workers, or provide wages anywhere near livable to employees, >IMMIGRANT WORKERS IN THE NORTH WERE CHEAPER AND MORE EFFECTIVE TO USE THAN SLAVE LABORERS<. What has changed since then? Ethics. Businesses have certain ethical obligations codified into law, among which include the enforcement of contracts. I don't believe it is either ethical, or legal, for Gravewit to take a non-profit venture, and then sell it out for a cash value that takes into account the community or contributions of the community, or parts of the site which were funded entirely by revenues made by the site, such as server expansions paid through ad revenues, or user contributions. Therefore, I propose that this is an issue which has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with deception and ethical bankruptcy.Merengue 21:57, 16 September 2007 (CDT) This is disgusting. My contributions to the wiki were for the benefit of the community, not some guy called Gravewit or of the Wikia people. It matters because now my contributions are free labour making someone else rich - this is disgusting. I'm going to the official wiki now where my contributions won't be sold like a cheap whore. 58.110.136.200 04:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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