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| - I've got a few questions on alts. First off, would Lionblaze get an alt (after the apprentice blanks are finished of course) for his CotC picture? He looks more speckled than a tabby, however he DOES have very clear strips on his head (tabby M) and the tip of his tail. Normally I wouldn't ask this, but since Silverstream seems to be getting an alt for only having one stripe, I figured I'd ask. Second of all, if a ginger cat that's DESCRIBED as a tabby is shown as a solid cat in the manga (in black and white, not on the cover) would they get an alt? I know all ginger cats have stripes, but if the cat is specifically described as a tabby, then shown as a solid in black and white, meaning you can't tell for sure if it's ginger or not, I would think they would. Like for example, Sharpclaw is a ginger TABBY, but is shown as a solid cat in the manga, whearas Billystorm is just a ginger cat (never described in book as a tabby) and he's shown as a solid cat. I think Billystorm wouldn't get one, because in the Erin's eyes, Billystorm very well could be ginger solid, but Sharpclaw is described as a tabby, but shown solid, so shouldn't he get an alt? Same with Jaggedtooth. Also, just one last question, why was Ashfur tweaked to look like his CotC picture, but all the others got alts for them? Sorry for the long post. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 10:44, November 21, 2011 (UTC) I think if a ginger tabby cat is shown as a solid, then it should get an alt. I don't know why Ashfur got tweaked to look like the CotC picture, and I'm not sure about Lionblaze. 08:00, November 22, 2011 (UTC) Lionblaze, I'm not sure about. Speckled tabby is different, so I'm leaning towards yes, but I want a couple more opinions. Ashfur, I got no idea why he looks like that, but he does look nice. As for ginger cats, I'm gonna say, no alts. -Scarletwind✧Lisanna✧ 03:07, November 24, 2011 (UTC) I like how Ashfur looks too, I just wondered why it was different for all the other characters. XD As for the ginger cats, why not? We don't KNOW that they're ginger in the books since it's black and white, and they're shown as solid when they're originally described as tabbies in the book. So why wouldn't they? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 22:15, November 24, 2011 (UTC) Lionblaze yes, ginger cats no. We already established Erins dont care for genetics, why would that change for the manga? 00:05, November 29, 2011 (UTC) That's me point though! We don't KNOW that they're ginger in the manga! We just know they're described as ginger tabbies in the books, and then they're shown as solid grayscale cats! They're being shown as solid, which goes against they're description, regardless of the pelt color. Am I making any sense? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 13:05, November 29, 2011 (UTC) With that kind of logic we can make a grayscale cat for every cat ever shown in the manga. 22:04, November 29, 2011 (UTC) You're not getting my point here. They're shown as a solid instead TABBY and black and white. Not if it was color, and they were shown as ginger, it wouldn't matter, cause we have to make all chararts on here tabby. But since we don't know it's ginger, and it's shown as a solid cat, which is going against the description, I think they should get one. If it were a gray tabby, or even a brown tabby that was shown as solid in the manga, they'd get an alt. The only thing that stopped us from giving ginger cats an alt is that all ginger cats HAVE to have stripes. But since it's not clearly shown that the cat IS ginger in the alt, however it IS solid, we wouldn't have to make it a tabby, so therefore they would get an alt. I don't think anybody's understanding me, are they? -.- ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 23:59, November 29, 2011 (UTC) I get your point, but the Erins dont care about genetics, the wouldnt start caring just for the manga. There isnt a colour we could give them anyway, Im not willing to say gray because then were saying every cat in a manga should get an alt, so even if i did agree that they deserved alts, theres not colour to make them. 00:03, November 30, 2011 (UTC) Yes, the erins don't care about genetics. I understand that. But they described them in the book as tabbies, then go against that in the manga. And why not make the gray? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 00:05, November 30, 2011 (UTC) Because before we know it people will be trying to make gray alts for all the characters. I get your point that if they were tabbies but called solid, they should, but we dont have a colour to go with so theres no way to make an alt. 00:14, November 30, 2011 (UTC) Well yeah, we don't really know what the colors are for any of the cats in the manga, but we don't know they're wrong, so they really shouldn't get alts. Why would people start making them? I don't understand. I would think the solid cats would get alts in gray, because that is technically what they're shown as. Since they need a color since they're getting an alt for a reason OTHER than the color, why would making them gray mean everybody would go and make gray alts for all cats? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 00:23, November 30, 2011 (UTC) I think what Iceheart's trying to say is that even though it seems logical to assume that they would be ginger (if the manga was in colour) because they are described as ginger tabbies, you still don't know for sure. For all you know, the author of the manga would have completely screwed up and made them gray or brown or any other solid colour, for that matter. I don't think they should get alts. 02:13 Wed Nov 30 I'm not sure I quite get what you're saying Wildy. I'm not saying to make them ginger. I'm saying since they're shown as solid in the manga, regardless of their base coat color, shouldn't they get alts if they were described as a tabby in the books? And I'm just saying we should make those alts gray since we don't officially know what color they are, like you said, we just know that they're solid when they're supposed to be tabby. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 04:56, November 30, 2011 (UTC) Oh okay. Well I still don't really think they should get alts as everything in the manga is grayscale, and as previously stated, the manga authors could have meant them to be brown or ginger or gray, so we'd really just be taking a stab in the dark at it. Doesn't make much sense to me to make an alt for a cat that you know is solid-coloured, but that colour is unknown. 07:08 Wed Nov 30 Ok, I think I get it. But then, why did Sunfish get a charart if that's the case? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 15:55, November 30, 2011 (UTC) Well, we concluded that since she was a light colored she-cat, she would get one. I'm kinda iffy about hers since the decision, I feel, was made on a whim, and we don't know her exact color. But it wasn't my choice to make 02:28, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
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