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by Journeyman Having spent some time observing on this board I hope you will indulge me these remarks offered as candidly and humbly as I can. Anyone who chooses to debate politics might be presumed to have a nobler motive, and that might be a desire for a better country or a more just world. I hope we are all together in that. One way of looking at it is order the mind, and the thoughts will be orderly. Order the thoughts, and the words will be orderly. Fast forward, to this or any other bulletin board where people debate each other. Can we at least start now? Again: can we start now?

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  • by Journeyman Having spent some time observing on this board I hope you will indulge me these remarks offered as candidly and humbly as I can. Anyone who chooses to debate politics might be presumed to have a nobler motive, and that might be a desire for a better country or a more just world. I hope we are all together in that. One way of looking at it is order the mind, and the thoughts will be orderly. Order the thoughts, and the words will be orderly. Fast forward, to this or any other bulletin board where people debate each other. Can we at least start now? Again: can we start now?
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  • by Journeyman Having spent some time observing on this board I hope you will indulge me these remarks offered as candidly and humbly as I can. Anyone who chooses to debate politics might be presumed to have a nobler motive, and that might be a desire for a better country or a more just world. I hope we are all together in that. However, before we go deciding what is better or just for others, the most important thing is to apply the rule of better and just to ourselves. Can we fix another person's vision if WE don't see? Often we have not even the first idea about the large and small ways we are blinded. It's hard to get that first idea. Many people live a lifetime without looking for it or having it occur to them; even after eighty or ninety years of increasingly dramatic clues. One way of looking at it is order the mind, and the thoughts will be orderly. Order the thoughts, and the words will be orderly. Fast forward, to this or any other bulletin board where people debate each other. Among the evidence of "fixing the other" where we ourselves remain badly fixed: we see debaters attributing bad faith to each other, making assumptions about each other's unstated position. "If you disagree with me on this, you must be in favor of that." We see what could have been an outcry for peace, where in the same sentence the poster is at war against those who differ from his opinion in some tiny detail. We see "liberals" who neither forgive nor liberate nor are generous. We see "conservatives" who save or preserve nothing, who propose risky instant solutions and make rash judgements. There are diatribes: people stating how they "despise" the President, or Democrats, or liberals; while in the same post they emulate one of George Bush's chief faults: "if you're not with me, you're against me." There are overreactions of a telling kind: a leap to the defense, the calling of names or harsh generalizations in reply. We see that hot buttons are pushed by interesting and curious things, and we take note and wonder. We see posts spiral into hostility for no reason. A challenge to an opinion is really a chance to learn, to moderate and temper and mix attitudes and postures. Yet we sometimes think that a challenge is something that we must reject, and defeat utterly, otherwise all we think we believe could be in doubt. It's the "all or nothing" that some see and dislike in Mr. Bush; while some of us act it out here and who knows where else? On our families, coworkers and friends? We miss the message in discomfort. The discomfort you feel with contradiction, or with someone's observation of your behavior... the flush of rage you may feel... is a sign and a signal. Try to refrain from it. You need not give in to it. It's deceiving you. You don't have to believe in everything you happen to think. Get the information from it, someone is doing you a major service by pointing it out to you. Will we stay on our tragically sightless mission to fix the other person, trying even to dominate the other with our way of seeing? ... dangerously unaware that we are full of the very thing we criticize? Can we admit error and partial seeing? Can we own up to what's ours and not push it off on others? Have we failed to order our mind and our thoughts before we say or write our words? Can we at least start now? Politics and the things we want to change outside, are really just a proxy for the things we MUST change in ourselves first. The social order will reflect the mind of the greater number of its citizens. Freedom is the result of meriting freedom; the loss of freedom follows abuse of freedom. If we don't read the signs, we will find ourselves in stricter limits; and there is no blaming the government. If we had leaders who were prepared in this manner, there would not be the selfishness, partisanship and reckless behavior we see in every government in the world. We will probably not have this kind of leader until we are that kind of person, one at a time. Again: can we start now? __NOEDITSECTION__ From The Opinion Wiki, a Wikia wiki. From The Opinion Wiki, a Wikia wiki.
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