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| - __NOWYSIWYG__ Last year when new episodes would come put, we would add them to the main page. This is something I thought personally was well received. However, this year when I went to make the edits and continue with it, however, Fruipit raised some concerns here and here. So I have two options, 1) since there has been no new FA since August we add that to the main page, or 2) we add a new box onto the main page. I really don't care either way, but I do think that adding the episode to the main page will help bring in a lot of visitors. Even though new episodes are airing, the amount of users are decreasing, so it is pivotal that we start to pull in users. --Srijay K - TechFilmer 13:57, September 19, 2013 (UTC) Oppose, per my initial points, and the fact that we aren't really losing editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fruipit (wall • contribs) This note was added on 14:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC). Um, we are. Your graph shows that. See how after July the user number went down? If it had followed what had happened with Korra Book 1, the number of users should have shot up. But it didn't. The amount of users this month are less than last month. So yes, we are losing users. Srijay K - TechFilmer 14:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC) All that graph shows is that it's fluctuating. Over the course of the last year, it's gone up and down, but only a little. I also want to point out that the number of editors doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that no one votes in the FA. Hardly anyone votes in the FFA/FFS. I added that graph to show that one uphill/downhil trend over the course of a year doesn't mean that we're suddenly an unpopular wiki. It just means that there was a radical trend recently. FruipyLoops File:Toph-DoBS-2.gif 14:27, September 19, 2013 (UTC) Because you raised those concerns, I added option 2. A new box on the main page, which I think will work. As per your graph, our low times have been in Feb., May, and Sept., showing that new users aren't joining. Since July we have been going very much down hill, with the uphill at all. --Srijay K - TechFilmer 14:34, September 19, 2013 (UTC) First thing; your analysis of this month's numbers is incorrect. The 477 (at my last look) counts for this month so far (19 out of 30 days), and if we average that number over the rest of this month, we get 753 for the month. Which is more than last month. And this number is probably an underestimate since the number of editors is likely to increase over the rest of the month from what is has been due to the release of new episodes. As for the point of your proposal; I don't agree with making new episode articles FAs. An episode should be Featured because of its standard, not because it is a popular page or whatever. Regarding your second suggestion, a separate box for new episodes could work, provided it didn't ruin the aesthetics of the rest of the page. 14:45, September 19, 2013 (UTC) All right I guess my analysis was incorrect. As for the aesthetics of the page, I have made a draft in my sadnbox, and imo it looks very nice. Srijay K - TechFilmer 15:28, September 19, 2013 (UTC) Per HammerOfThor. Featured articles should attain their status the proper way. Episodes should not get special treatment, and I don't see how these changes to the main page are supposed to bring in more users. -- 15:34, September 19, 2013 (UTC) That is why I added proposal 2 - adding a new box, which I drafted in my sandbox, because a lot of users do not want episodes to have special treatment. As for new users, right now, unless one clicks through the slider they do not get to see the new episode article, however the addition of the box below the FA, greatly lowers the amount of click necessary. Srijay K - TechFilmer 15:38, September 19, 2013 (UTC) Well it looks like you're putting two featured articled slots there: the actual FA one and another for the new episode, which I would oppose for the same reasons. -- 15:58, September 19, 2013 (UTC) Ah, that was an oversight. I have renamed the box to Latest Episode from Featured Article. Support. I don't see the harm in directing traffic to the latest episode, especially if it has its own box. It's what most people would search for in the following days anyway. I don't really see a downside, and the mockup looks good. In fact, it's been brought up many times that some people aren't even aware of Book Two's existence. Showing the latest episode on the main page could fix that. --AtkaSura (wall • contribs) 19:43, September 19, 2013 (UTC) I oppose. Including two spaces for two articles to be essentially "featured" on the main page is not an intuitive solution and would mess with the aesthetics. In addition, the proposal is also painfully redundant - the entire purpose of the recent slider introduced onto the page by Thailog was to deal with navigation in an interactive and easy-to-operate manner, such that one would not have to type into a search box or click away onto multiple other pages to find what they were looking for. That includes episodes and transcripts. Secondly, I do not agree that this is the best way to inform people who may not be aware of new episodes - a note could be just as easily be highlighted on the slider, akin to the countdown timer that was present before the release of Book 2. An order of magnitude more simple and more accessible. KettleMeetPot • wall 03:56, September 20, 2013 (UTC) Oh, wait, for whatever reason I didn't realize there was already a 'chapters' section in the slider. I was checking the Fanon main page and mistaking it for the main. Two boxes listing episodes would indeed be redundant. --AtkaSura (wall • contribs) 04:08, September 20, 2013 (UTC) The solution for "declining" rates of user registration is to... add stuff to the main page? Even without the (correct) argument that user registration really isn't a concern, I don't see how A solves B. The 888th Avatar (talk) 13:41, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
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