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I've listed this article for peer review because I have been told that it is getting close to FA, and I would like to know what improvements could be made. Thanks, StringTheory11 18:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC) Wow. I had a look through this article and found it to be quite a demanding read, compared to descriptive chemistry. Might partly explain the lack of feedback. Anyway, here are some comments about the lead. I've expressed them as questions and inconsistencies that came to mind as I was going, rather than as suggested changes: The Rambling Man (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

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  • I've listed this article for peer review because I have been told that it is getting close to FA, and I would like to know what improvements could be made. Thanks, StringTheory11 18:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC) Wow. I had a look through this article and found it to be quite a demanding read, compared to descriptive chemistry. Might partly explain the lack of feedback. Anyway, here are some comments about the lead. I've expressed them as questions and inconsistencies that came to mind as I was going, rather than as suggested changes: The Rambling Man (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
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  • I've listed this article for peer review because I have been told that it is getting close to FA, and I would like to know what improvements could be made. Thanks, StringTheory11 18:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC) * Quick comments: File:Atomic number to radius graph.png is hard to read without clocking. Try to change it to lines instead of separate spots. Also, when did the CAS labeling scheme fall into disuse? Nergaal (talk) 19:47, 24 June 2012 (UTC) * The new IUPAC nomenclature was proposed in 1988. The CAS labelling scheme must have fallen into disuse sometime after that. Double sharp (talk) 10:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC) * Second point is File:Yes check.svg Done, but for the first point, I don't have an image editing software on my computer (the closest thing I have is Autodesk Maya), and I know next to nothing about that sort of stuff. Is anyone else willing to make the image? StringTheory11 00:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC) * You can use Microsoft Excel to create a line graph with the data already in the picture or that at atomic radii of the elements (data page) (use the "empirical" set). Double sharp (talk) 12:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC) * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 00:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC) Wow. I had a look through this article and found it to be quite a demanding read, compared to descriptive chemistry. Might partly explain the lack of feedback. Anyway, here are some comments about the lead. I've expressed them as questions and inconsistencies that came to mind as I was going, rather than as suggested changes: * 'The periodic table is a tabular display of the chemical elements, organized on the basis of their properties.' Which properties? * File:Yes check.svg Done, I think. I hope this is what you meant. StringTheory11 17:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * 'The main body of the table is a 18 × 7 grid, with gaps included to keep elements with similar properties together, such as the halogens and the noble gases.' How do the gaps keep the halogens together? * File:Yes check.svg Done, that sentence was even somewhat factually inaccurate; the gaps are there to keep elements with the same number of valence electrons together. Thanks! StringTheory11 17:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * 'The periodic table accurately predicts the properties of various elements and the relations between properties.' As I understand it, accurately is an exaggeration; nor does the periodic table predict all the properties and relations between them. * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 17:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * 'Mendeleev's presentation also predicted some properties of then-unknown elements expected to fill gaps in his arrangement; these predictions were proved correct when those elements were discovered and found to have properties close to the predictions.' Yes, this is so. However, if memory serves, and not to underscore his brilliance, some of his predictions were also found to be incorrect. Sandbh (talk) 11:36, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 17:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC) Comments a vast article so some spot checks, some focus on the lead, and some other technical issues. * Link "atomic number" the first time. * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * Image captions should have a full stop if they are complete sentences or more than one sentence. * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * What's a "valence electron"? * File:Yes check.svg Done, now linked StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * Per WP:IMAGES, "Lead images should usually be no wider than "300px""... * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * What do you mean in the lead by "isolated"? * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * Don't repeatedly link the same article, such as Chemical Society. * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * "Contents" is an odd section heading. * File:Yes check.svg Done, hopefully this is better. StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * You know, per WP:ACCESS that colours alone should not be used to denote a specific property. * Mousing over one of the cells in the table gives the same info already. StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * Non-English refs should have a language parameter. * See also is a bit overkill, Photovoltaic effect for instance, isn't directly relevant to the periodic table. * File:Yes check.svg Done StringTheory11 23:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC) The Rambling Man (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC) * I think that the Dirac discussion is a bit unclear. I think you can have neutral atoms above 137 or 173, but these atoms don't have electrons in the 1s shell; instead the 1s electrons occupy the next subshell in the with quantum number 6, 7 or 8. Am I correct? Nergaal (talk) 14:40, 5 July 2012 (UTC) * I also think there needs to be a small section on popular culture. The periodic table is ubiquitous in science highschool labs, and I am sure there can be a small section on that. Nergaal (talk) 14:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC) * Don't get me started on how many times I tried to add a popular culture section to alkali metal (all those parties throwing alkali metals into water), and how many times it was deleted. :-( IMHO, both alkali metal and periodic table deserve a popular culture section. Double sharp (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2012 (UTC) * Sounds to me that ADOMAH is an acronym. Can you find out what is it supposed to mean? Nergaal (talk) 14:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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