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How to Witness to a Loved One is the title of the ninth episode from season two of Way of the Master. The episode first takes place by a fireside and we get the impression that Ray and Kirk are at home.

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  • How to Witness to a Loved One is the title of the ninth episode from season two of Way of the Master. The episode first takes place by a fireside and we get the impression that Ray and Kirk are at home.
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  • Ray does not explain what he means by a “Non-Christian”, he seems to mean someone who is not buying Ray’s literature and giving Ray donations is not “saved” by Ray’s complicated and controversial system.
  • How does the idea that God brings a person’s family members to him fit with the idea that Human beings have free will and freely choose to accept or reject God? As so often happens Christians overlook the contradiction.
  • By no means are all drag artists gay, but drag is well known as part of the gay scene. Anyone with even partial knowledge of the gay community knows that when gay men look at something like Ray and Kirk acting together with Ray pretending to be Kirk’s "gran", some will ask themselves, “Could Ray and Kirk possibly find me cute too?” Stereotyping gay men would be unwise as is stereotyping any human beings but some are likely to wonder about Ray or Kirk pinching their cheeks the same way and more. We must assume Ray and Kirk work to bring gay men to repentance if gay men contact them. For Ray and Kirk’s followers the alternative is likely too painful to contemplate. This show does not prove conclusively that Ray and/or Kirk are gay but both are certainly encouraging gay men to, 'lust after them in their hearts'. According to Ray and Kirk's theology looking at someone with lust is damnable and equivalent to adultery so viewers may wonder about the sincerity of these two.
  • Most atheists are far more decent than gang members, presumably Ray means criminal gang members. Further as usual Ray and Kirk assume that Christianity is true and other beliefs are false without giving any evidence.
  • It seems Rena has been influenced by Roman Catholics since Catholics believe in somewhere in between, Purgatory and also believe human beings cannot know if they are saved. According to Catholicism assuming that we are saved is the sin of presumption.
  • God is supposedly Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent but somehow God needs us to preach to family members and strangers and cannot always save them on his own.
  • If the theology of Ray and Kirk is correct whether someone like Rena spends eternity in heaven or hell depends on whether anyone like the interviewer accosts her and explains to her what she needs to be saved. Further her eternal salvation depends on whether or not she believes what the person who accosts her says. By contrast if the Roman Catholics are correct Rena’s salvation could depend on no one accosting her and telling her the, ‘trust God and you are saved’ system, alternatively her salvation could depend on her not believing what Catholics teach is a damnable heresy. Either system shows god as arbitrary and capricious rather than perfectly just.
  • Note the unequal role of the sexes, the man of the house should lead religious activity unless there is no man in the household. Keeping sessions short for young children is a good idea and prevents boredom. Atheist parents wanting to teach their children critical thinking may do well to remember to keep sessions short. Critical thinking sessions need not be done daily.
  • Children have not developed critical thinking yet and cannot see easily when adults are teaching them something unreasonable.
  • It has already been pointed out how this contradicts teachings on free will.
  • This is done so the children will early on learn to see themselves as sinners unable to keep the commandments and can be the start of a lifetime of guilt.
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  • How to Witness to a Loved One is the title of the ninth episode from season two of Way of the Master. The episode first takes place by a fireside and we get the impression that Ray and Kirk are at home.
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