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| - Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Hollydapple 04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC) This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC) Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Hollydapple 04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC) Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.--File:Cchslogo.gif Gladiator Band Geek File:Treble and bass clef heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Hollydapple 06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC) This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Hollydapple 05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC) I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more--nightshine 00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC) I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Hollydapple 21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
* smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Hollydapple 21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC) This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC) Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC) He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch?♥Featherblaze♥Meow to me! 18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC) He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Hollydapple 17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC) The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Hollydapple 21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I just redid the earpink completely. Hollydapple 21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC) Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC) The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink a little lighter--make the color more neutral. Maybe add some speckles to his tail? Willowheart1231 23:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 Smudge the chest patches a bit. 23:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC) Also, make the ear pink smaller and darker. And blur it. 17:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink smaller, darker, and blur it. I agree with Icestorm. I hate Hawkheart, and may StarClan light your path. 02:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Try and make the ear pink a bit more triangular Tawny (Talk) 21:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Sorry it's taken so long. I had the image with the suggested changes at that time ready a few days ago, but Wikia convinently closed off the uploading, and I couldn't get to it for a few days. The ear pink has been lightened, shrunk, and more defined. It looked better lighter than darker, so that's what I did. I may go back and change the ear pink so it's further in the ear, but I'm kinda busy right now. I added a few speckles to his tail, Willowheart. They're kinda small, but...they're speckles. :3 Oh, yeah, and the haunch has been lightened. Hollydapple 04:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC) Hold on, for some reason my changes didn't show up. Lemme try again tomorrow. Sorry! Dumb internet. *starts muttering about lousy dialup connection* Hollydapple 04:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the shading on his back. And the tip of his tail is cut off; try and fix that =) 19:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I darkened the shading a while ago, so I don't know if it's too dark...let me know if it is. Here's hoping the changes show up. I think he looks too pale now...I'm not going to explain why, but I'll probably darken him again this evening, if I get the chance.Oh, and as for the tail, I tried fixing the tip, but it looks a little funny. I'm going to try to fix it a little more later. Hollydapple 20:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC) The end of his tail looks cut off. Desaturate the ear pink and blur it. Blur the spot on his shoulder and blur the shading-- 04:16, September 16, 2010 (UTC) There's a spot under his chin where the patches and the gray part meet, but aren't blurred. Try to see if you can see it...(sorry, but I'm starting to become REALLY picky) EarthbenderTawny Style! 14:15, September 18, 2010 (UTC) A good color for the ear pink would be #F778A1. Blur the ear pink as well. Willowheart1231 20:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 Reuploaded. I'm picky too, Tawny! ;) If I didn't get the spot, or didn't get it well enough, please let me know or draw me a diagram. I used the earpink reccomended by Willowheart, and I think it looks better--thanks! I blurred the ear pink as well, and gave Hawkheart tail-tip reconstruction! I fixed it using one of the blanks, without going into detail. I blurred the spot on his shoulder and the shading. Thanks for the advice! Hollydapple 15:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Smudge and darken the earpink into a triangular shape. This is really pretty Holly :) 00:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC) lol don't worry, Hollydapple...you got it! This is really good! Picky buds! EarthbenderTawny Style! 13:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Hollydapple, this is amazing so well done for your determination and committment to this image. This looks to me to be more than ready for approval and I actually think the earpink is fine as it is, though I guess that is a matter of opinion. Nice work at any rate. 18:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Darken the ear pink, I think the spots could use a tad more smudging. 18:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Looks fine by me; the ear pink and spots do not need changing. I see no reason to not approve this now, considering how well worked it’s been, but I’ll do customary practice. Well done, Hollydapple. Setting 24 hours now. 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC) (S) - D: I'm really, really sorry to disagree with you Bramble (and for ruining 24 hours) but the ear pink looks hot pink to me. Maybe it's just my computer, but that's what I see. Also, the highlight on his flank looks really bright. (sorry again!) Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Don't worry, I'd rather have everything fixed before approval! :) I'll try desaturating the ear pink, but if it looks too grayish, I'll let you know. I don't know which highlight on the flank you mean, because there isn't really a "flank" highlight. Do you mean the shoulder or haunch highlight? Thanks, everyone! Hollydapple 23:11, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Desaturated the ear pink...let me know if it needs to be changed back. I just noticed something on the throat patch...let me fix that. Hollydapple 23:59, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Repeating CBA?-- 05:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I fixed the thing that was bugging me on his throat...is it okay if I reupload it? (It's going to bug me forever if I don't.) Hollydapple 19:02, September 28, 2010 (UTC) (S) - I meant the haunch. (sorry for the confusion) Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:28, September 29, 2010 (UTC) I see nothing wrong with it. Nice job. :) 22:48, October 2, 2010 (UTC) The fleck style is different from his other alt. image. It's easy to do, really, just draw on a whole bunch of squarish patches in various shades of gray and smudge them all the same direction. 03:56, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I like this style better, the other one looks overly smudged. Give Thanks For Thanksgiving!Dappleclaw Talk 02:08, October 6, 2010 (UTC) So we'll leave this one, approve it, then wait for Tweak Week, and change the other to match while in the meantime before Tweak Week, he'll have two incosistent images rather than just changing the one up for approval? :P Besides, the style on the other image looks fine, it doesn't look overly smudged. 04:17, October 6, 2010 (UTC) First black cat. Hopefully it doesn't suck.--Shaf Girl 00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC) Make the highlights bigger. 01:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC) His eyes look really really bright. While you're making the highlights bigger, add one to the back and tail. And the face highlight seems really low down. 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC) Darken the eyes, add more highlights on the tail. Echofall Fate is in your paws 02:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. Lighten the face highlight. Darken and blur the ear pink. Other than that, this is well done. 14:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl 14:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC) You still need to make the highlights a bit bigger on his flank. Make the ones on the tail more noticible. 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC) This is weird...the new edits aren't showing up. You can see them on the two previous uploads before this one on the file history, but it's not showing up here.--Shaf Girl 14:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Make the haunch highlight bigger, add a highlight to the tail, and lighten his muzzle just a bit. Willowheart1231 00:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 I did all those things, and I reuploaded it, but the new version isn't showing up on the page.--Shaf Girl 14:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Okay, I uploaded it as a new file entirely, so now it's working.--Shaf Girl 14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Blurr the highlights on the tail and haunch. --Iceheart♥: 21:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur Highlights. --Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:44, September 5, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl 23:35, September 5, 2010 (UTC) Rename it Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 22:11, September 8, 2010 (UTC) I had to name it Dark Whiskers.Sharpclaw2 because of the error I described above.--Shaf Girl 01:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC) But that's fixed now. Change the file name to Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 21:52, September 9, 2010 (UTC) Just changed it right now.--Shaf Girl 23:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC) The highlights are really concentrated, they look like spots. Blur the highlights. --SunnyYes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 06:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC) ) Reuploaded. And the same problem's happening again...--Shaf Girl 04:34, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Uh, wasn't clara meant to do this??? Zoe27Gossip Queen!!! 19:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Zoe Clara's two weeks are long past up. Imagewise blur the highlights. 19:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Highlights need to be enlarged as well. Guys, I blurred the hightlights and enlarged them. The problem is, whenever I reupload the image, the "current" image is the previous version before I reuploaded the new version. If you click on the image and look at the previous versions, you can see the version that's supposed to be the current version, but is listed as a previous version. Hope that makes sense.--Shaf Girl 18:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC) If you click on the image and it pops up in that little window, that's the current version. So before commenting/critiquing, please look at the current version.--Shaf Girl 18:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC) The image in the window looks the same as the one on the page to me. The highlights still need to be blurred. 21:55, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl 22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights and give them some more shape. They don't all have to look the same; make the one on his neck curve more to the shape of his head, and the ones on the tail should make it look more like you can tell wheere the light source is coming from. Their placement is kind of off. 18:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the highlights and, like Oblivion said, give them more shape. Black cats are really hard to get right. -- 00:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Okay, I know the new version isn't showing up, because when you click the image and it pops up in a separate window, you can clearly see that the hightlights are lighter. At least that's how it is on my computer.--Shaf Girl 05:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I think the highlights look a lot better. :) But lighten up the image a little, cause I can't really see the cat's face. Otherwise, I think he looks beautiful! --HoneyfurBob's Your Uncle! 19:25, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl 19:55, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights a lot 15:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Try to darken the highlights and give them more shape, then blur. 15:03, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl 03:20, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Honestly, I don't think that there has been anything wrong with it for a LONG time, so no offense people, but this has no cause for critical comments. Not trying to tell you how to do your jobs, Senior Warriors, but I think this should be CBA-ified. 06:55, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Well, that's for the senior warriors to decide 20:32, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I do have to point out: aren't hightlights optional in the first place?--Shaf Girl 00:37, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Yes, highlights are optional, but most people add them because they add 'depth' to the image. 03:28, October 4, 2010 (UTC) File:DarkWhiskersImprovements.png All right, this is probably confusing. I'll explain. The pink/red means add shading. It didn't look like there was very much. The blue means blur, so basically, blur the highlights. The green means move, something that needs to be re-located, in this case three of the highlights. The purple is where their new locations should be. There only needs to be one tail highlight and it should be at the top, and move the face highlight up. The yellow means blurred lineart. That's all. 04:03, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Eh, my apologies, his markings look much like the ones on his warrior/apprentice images. I can redo it, but for now, here he is. Comments? TheBlindApprentice 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Creekfeather doesn't have an apprentice or a warrior image so I don't know what you are talking about. Darken the shading and blur it thoroughly, it is very blotchy right now. Add more tabby stripe and add ear-pink. 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Sorry. This is over the limit, so this will have to be declined. Try again when theres avaliable space. -- 23:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC) No, it's fine. I just declined Egg's image, so this is under the limit. 23:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC) . Blur it, I agree with Frostheart that it does look blotchy. Also, add ear pink. Make the ear pink a lightish color. Willowheart1231 23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 I agree with Frostheart about adding more tabby stripes. And if you're going to add some on the legs and/or haunch, you should lighten those areas; the legs and haunch seem to be the same color as the stripes. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Creeakfeather has apprentice and warrior images up for approval, this needs to match those stripes. Otherwise, blur the shading and highlights. 02:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Creekfeather needs to be patched. 03:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC) I thought Creakfeather was a tabby? 13:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Er, I think there was a discussion a while ago, and Elorisa decided that Creekfeather should be patched. 13:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Actually, my image is a tabby, it just looks patched. Elorisa-samaFile:3887979.gif 19:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC) LOL, I don't think you can decide to change the character's appearance. It's just the stripe style Elorisa used, that's all. 21:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Oh. :P But this looks tabby, not patched, so..xD Could you modify it to change the other images? 22:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC) It supposed to be tabby...just blur the stripes. It can be fixed. 19:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC) Um.. you should probably add earpink XD -- I see ear-pink..o_o 14:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC) REALLY? The ears are gray for me.... like just plain gray... weird. Does anybody else see it or am I crazy? =P -- 22:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC) No ear pink here either 01:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC) I can see the ear pink fine. Darken the stripes on the forearms and tail-- 01:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Darkened stripes and added highlights. Sorry for the wait, I was kinda distracted. TheBlindApprentice 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC) This needs to look like his warrior image which has been approved. 00:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Sorry for creating such a hard image to copy xD. This looks wonderful, just blur the highlight on his chest. 11:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Okay NOW I can see the earpink LOL maybe make the patches more... patchy? Lol idk how to describe it, but it looks a little too regular. 00:17, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Ummm...I still don't see an ear pink. at all. Make him darker and change his stripes, he doesn't look like the warrior/apprentice pictures. 04:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC) The ear-pink is fine, Iceheart. 04:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC) I wouldn't know, considering i can't SEE it. 04:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC) That must be your computer Iceheart. I can see it very clearly. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 19:58, September 15, 2010 (UTC) no I dont see it either O.oMossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 22:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Oi, Sorry for all this fuss over the earpink. When I first uploaded it, I had forgotten to add some, but I reuploaded, I'll upload again, hopefully it works this time. TheBlindApprentice 23:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC) I can see it now, blurr the highlights on the chest. 23:49, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Darken and blur the earpink. 00:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Blurred highlights, earpink, and stripes. I'm thinking of making two images, one with his stripes more patched, and one that looks just like this. Then you guys can debate over which one I should keep editing. FoggyLatin Freak 23:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Smudge the stripes with a small brush up and down to make it more patch-like. Darken the shading-- 05:39, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Rainwhisker as he appeared in 'A Clan In Need' 23:16, September 10, 2010 (UTC) Someone get it out of this box! XD 23:18, September 10, 2010 (UTC) I fixed it. :P 23:19, September 10, 2010 (UTC) Blur the spots and make the earpink darker (a little) and bigger. 00:36, September 11, 2010 (UTC) 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Making the earpink bigger wouldmake it too big, Iceheart. But yes, make it darker. Blur the spots. 01:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Made ear pink darker and tried to blur spots without over blurring. Didn't work XD. 01:28, September 11, 2010 (UTC) I remember it being said we didn't do alterntae images for when a cat was just shown in a picture a certain way because the artist guy always screws stuff up? 01:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Really? I'm new here, remember that. 01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Wait a minute- what about Ice and Snake? They have alt images. 01:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Darken the patches on his tail. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Better? 02:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC) I don't think we should have this image here, we can only guess what color his fur and patches are. SunnyYes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 06:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC) You know, I was looking around for an image to do and saw on Rainwhisker's page in the Trivia section 'Rainwhisker is shown as a gray and white tom in A Clan in Need' 11:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC) It could be a gray tom with a white belly, if you know what I'm saying. ;) Also, in the trivia section, it does not have a source, so it could be false or something. :P 15:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Just went to Books a Million and checked A Clan In Need and it's true- he's a grey and white tom 16:14, September 11, 2010 (UTC) I see gray splotches around the image. Remove them. 20:41, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Something's wrong with Gimp- I can't do ANYTHING! It's stuck on blur when I was making another version more accurate to the manga and poof- It got stuck! 21:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Sigh- I'm sad to do this but I'll withdraw this b/c of stupid Gimp. Someone can take over for me if they want.... 01:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC) You may just need to restart your computer. GIMP freezes on me all the time. It works just fine after I restart it. 01:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Thanks! 14:02, September 12, 2010 (UTC) I put up another version more accurate to the manga up to consider. I don't know which one to use :P 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC) I think the first one looks better, but that's just my opinion. 15:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Yeah but the second one's more accurate to the manga. 15:42, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Either way, make the ear-pink darker and a little bit bigger. It isn't very noticiable. 20:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Better? 21:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Which image are you working on? Blur the shading on the second one. 19:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)' 1st one's pretty while the second one's accurate to the manga :P I'm asking users which one they prefer and stuff. I blurred the shading as much as I could 22:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC) I prefer the first one, but blur the earpink on the second one 02:21, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Blurred earpink. I think I'll have to do the pretty one from the looks of it. 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Just realized that he 1st one's ear looked weird so I fixed it XD 00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC) The ear-pink still needs to be darker. 12:26, September 19, 2010 (UTC) On which one? 21:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Well both of them, but which ever one you are working on. XD 02:18, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Better? I darkened the ear pink and removed the second one 11:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink a bit more triangular. 23:32, September 21, 2010 (UTC) I suggest using the smudge tool to smudge it into a triangular shape. 00:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Better? 01:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Make it stretch out farther into the ear. 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I think you should use the other one if it's more accurate to the manga, since this is an alt. for the manga. We can't say, oh, well, the mangas are unaccurate, this time, because this is for the manga. 21:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Kay then, fished it out of the trash 10:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC) About the ear, I just fixed it 23:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Darken the patches a bit. I like the one on the right, but the head area seems bare. Darken and blur shading.-- 05:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I have a lot of H.W. so I can't work on this at the moment 20:32, September 29, 2010 (UTC) His head was like that in the manga (i think but i forgot XD) anyways, I lost the layers on BOTH of them so I redid the one on the right. I don't think the left one can replaced though. 01:03, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Define the ear pink in the second one. Since Rainwhisker is getting an alt. charart for an appearance in the manga, will any other cat? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:59, October 2, 2010 (UTC) I'm really sorry, Flowerleaf, but shouldn't this be declined until new alt. image qualifications are worked out? The rest have been. I'm pretty sure you'd be able to keep him reserved 'cuz of that, though. 03:51, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Those forums are only for manga and injuries discussions. 03:52, October 4, 2010 (UTC) ??? 21:31, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Wait, was this apart of the manga? 02:34, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Yes 23:03, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Comments? Elorisa-samaFile:3887979.gif 23:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink more noticeable and the shading more noticeable too. 23:40, September 10, 2010 (UTC) The ear pink is really light, darken it and blur the shading, otherwise, this is beautiful :) SunnyYes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 03:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Thanks Sunny. Better? 12:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC) I still can't see the ear-pink. 15:21, September 11, 2010 (UTC) It looks sort of gray. 20:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Must be some pale gray. xD I see it fine, though the shading is a bit blotchy. 20:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC) The colour is fine, but I agree, the shading is kinda blotchy, so blur it ^^ 02:26, September 16, 2010 (UTC) I can't do her anymore. Withdrawing. 12:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Darken the earpink. Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC) I could finish this up, if that's okay with Elorisa. 12:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Its fine. Cobaltpaw ღ 12:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Okay, I will start working on it! :) 01:47, September 20, 2010 (UTC) @Whitestorm, make sure you darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. :) 02:58, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I'm not sure if I made the shading dark enough. 02:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading more--it looks a little blotchy. 02:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Yes, also, there is some blurred line-art in various places. 02:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Better? 03:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Rename it Daisy.queen.alt, blur the shading a ton, and there is some blurred line art. Did you start a new layer for the shading? 19:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Blur shading. Darken a ton. Make the earpink a tad more triangular. I see some spots on the foreleg, hind haunch, upper back, and tailtip where lineart is blurred. EchoLeaf-fall.. 00:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Blur the earpink into a triangular shape. the shading along the back has a black smudge there. I think it's the line-art. 00:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC) The ear-pink is fine. 14:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Sorry Frostheart, I have to agree with them. The ear pink sort of looks like a blob to me -.- It's really good, other than that, though! 21:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I fixed the blurred line-art and ear-pink. Also, darkened the shading but I am not sure if it is enough. 22:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading along the back, and add shading to the face. Also blur the ear pink. -- 22:14, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I blurred the ear-pink and shading, but I don't think she needs any shading on her face. 23:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I really think the shading on the edge of the tail, belly, foreleg and, most prominently, the back really should be blurred more! 13:01, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I think I blurred it enough, but I'm not sure. 18:17, September 25, 2010 (UTC) The back shading is really dark...lighten it. 18:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I think I lightened it enough. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC) It looks good now, just blur it so it's not so blotchy. 01:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Maybe make the ear-pink bigger, it's just at the top of the ear right now 15:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC) I don't know what happened, I think it uploaded one of my previous versions. :\ 21:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Okay, I think it's fixed but I'm not sure. 21:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - If it is, blur the shading. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:47, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I think it is better. 12:40, October 2, 2010 (UTC) There is one pixel that is blurred near the ear, but that's really minor. :3 20:48, October 3, 2010 (UTC) The back shading looks a little inconsistent. 20:50, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading some more. 22:00, October 3, 2010 (UTC) What do you mean by inconsistent, Nightflower? 01:13, October 4, 2010 (UTC) She means one area is darker than another, there is also a tad bit of blurred line-art on the tail. 03:27, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Since this is an alt., shouldn't it be declined? 03:43, October 4, 2010 (UTC) No, this is fine, cause isn't the alternate for injuries? (Read in the discussions section titled: 'Wait ...') DappleclawTrick or Treat! Smell my feet! 03:48, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Sagepaw as an apprentice. Comments? DappledsnowThe new generation. 12:12, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Blur/darken the shading Darkhallows...Mew? 12:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC) err...my Friend MAPLEPOOL has this charSpotteddapple 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC) No..she has Birchfall alternate kit. Well, she has that uploaded. 14:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC) It won't let me upload the new version. DappledsnowThe new generation. 16:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC) Still won't upload the new version. DappledsnowThe new generation. 17:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Make his image lighter, like his warrior version ->File:Sagepaw.warrior.pngHe is pale gray, after all :D 19:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink more noticiable and blur the shadings. Also, the highlight on his haunch looks blotchy. 20:06, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink bigger and lighten the image. 20:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Finally got the new version. DappledsnowThe new generation. 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Darken the earpink 04:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Brighten/blur the highlights. 23:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Fixed earpink and highlights. Anything else? DappledsnowThe new generation. 22:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Okay, maybe darken was the wrong word. I meant brighten it. It kinda blends in. 01:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Match the ear pink from the warrior image, and then blur or sharpen from there. Willowheart1231 01:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 (S) - Blur the shading by the tail tip. Our User Page! I would still make the ear-pink a little bigger and blur it. 12:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Fit the ear-pink to match the angle of the line-art. 17:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Oh, and make this image the color of it's warrior image. 02:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC) I'd say make it slightly paler overall and lighten the base of the tail a little. It's quite dark! 09:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading. 20:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights 00:34, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sooooooooooooooo sorry this didn't happen sooner, but homework and playpractice have made my life busy. Also, no Tuesday, my older little sister broke her elbow, so we had to spend three hours in the ER. DappledsnowThe new generation. 00:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Oh no! I hope your (older little? =P) sister gets better soon! And this is looking beautiful, just darken the shading on the stomach and the hind leg away from us 05:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Run the burn tool over this a few times; its quite light compared to his other images. -- 20:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Aw, I wish your sister a quick recovery! :) This looks great, and the only thing I can see is that the shading on his back could be blurred a little more. Hollydapple 22:43, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Will work on soon. Play practice is keeping me very busy. I have two dress rehearsals, one tomorrow and one Friday. And by older little, I ment that she's the older of my two sisters, and she just got a cast, so she's making a good recovery. Willowsong 23:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Good. Maybe blur the belly shading, when you get time. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:55, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear-pink and maybe lighten it. 12:50, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Wow, this is really good. I think you should darken the head shading. I'm so sorry to hear about your sister :( 22:02, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sorry this took forever, but play practice is finally over and I have very few after school activities and homework. Anyways, I fixed everything. Comments are still very welcome. Willowsong 23:09, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I tried my best to copy the stripe style, comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 22:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. 22:03, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I darkend the shading, let me know it I overdid it or if it needs more, comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 22:17, September 13, 2010 (UTC) No, it looks fine. Blur it now, and make the earpink darker. 22:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I blurred the shading more and added highlights (let me know if you can't see them) DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 22:39, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Oops! I forgot to upload the pic first! Well then the stuff I said before, now. DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I can see them. Blur them a tad :3 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I blurred the highlights, comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 22:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC) The highlights on the tail and haunch could still be blurred. Also, the ear-pink could be darker. 23:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Better? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC) She looks very yellow in this picture. Make her paler. 23:36, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I desaturated, let me know how it worked out, comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 23:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Her eyes are a bit bright. It looks good now :) 23:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I didn't want to change the eyes too much cause that's the color on the warrior image to I darkened it a bit, comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 00:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Make the stripes a little paler, like on her warrior image. Willowheart1231 00:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231 They are the exact same color plus I don't see any difference (and how would I make them paler? Redo them with a differant color?) DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 01:14, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Ohh. . . they seem lighten in her warrior image. Anyways, add shading to the neck area (see Goldenflower's image for help) and blur the face shading. 01:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC) It might be because where I took the color from her stripes, or because her highligts are in differant spots (I'm getting on the neck shading) DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 01:44, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Comments? DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 01:47, September 14, 2010 (UTC) this is good but i cant see the stripes very well Maplepool 02:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Their supposed to be barely visible, and pale. DappleclawCan you read my poker face ... 02:24, September 14, 2010 (UTC) I know they're supposed to be barely visible, but maybe define them a tad more? They're very hard to see. 20:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Better? Let me know if more is needed. DappleclawP-p-p-poker face 21:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I think you should make them more visible. 03:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Better? DappleclawP-p-p-poker face 21:59, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Yep! Looking very good. But the eyes are kinda bright, so maybe make them (instead of all the same colour) kinda shaded? Idk how to describe it, but if you look at the eye chart.... It kinda explains itself XD 02:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC) I did that for Dawnstripe's eyes, but I can make them darker if you want. DappleclawDanger! Mousefur bites! 03:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Sorry I couldn't tell. lol so maybe, yeah. But the rest of the picture WHEW! I am blown away. Kinda jealous, actually haha 01:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Thanks! That means a lot to me! (btw do you still want me to darken the eyes?) DappleclawDanger! Mousefur bites! 01:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Personally, I think you should. Other users might disagree with me, though. Our User Page! Don't necessarily DARKEN the eyes, just add a darker green pixel in the far corner and a few progressively lighter pixels in the closest corner (of the larger eye) 23:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Wait, something seems fishy. Didn't Spiritcloud48 have an image like this up for approval, then it got declined because she was never seen as a queen or something like that? Please correct me if I'm wrong. EarthbenderTawny Style! 00:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Thanks for showing me Wildheart! I took out the gray pixels, and Tawnypelt, I just checked the page for characters needing pixels. Comments? DappleclawGod of Ghosts and spirits ... 15:19, September 18, 2010 (UTC) There are 3 white pixles one by the shoulder and two on each fromt paw -- 08:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I colored in the white spots, comments? DappleclawGod of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Blur the tail shading. 23:36, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I blurred the tail shading, honestly I'm finding it difficult without layers! I guess I'll have to do that for my next charart, comments? Dappleclaw 02:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Add some more stripes to the tail. 00:38, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw 00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC) A little more on the tail tip :) This is lovely Dapple! SunXMossBest Friends Forever! 01:04, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I added one, though it might not be too visible, comments? Dappleclaw 01:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC) LOL, I'm active today aren't I? XD I'd say to darken the earpink. 01:55, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - xD Thanks for commenting so much, it's been a while, comments? (btw is said to wait two minutes to see changes) Dappleclaw 02:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I understand how you would have a hard time without layers. I can't do chararts without using a separate layer for evetything. (not kidding, I use different layers for colours, markings, stripes, highlights and shading) At least you have the method I told you about for next time. Honestly though, I think this is really nice and near ready, just define the stripes and add shading to the eyes. 21:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - I added shading to the eyes, and defined the stripes, comments? Dappleclaw 22:53, September 27, 2010 (UTC) This looks amazing! Darken the back shading a tad. 20:47, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Thanks! =) I darkened the shading a tad like you asked. DappleclawTrick or Treat! Smell my feet! 23:02, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Define the ear pink a little. Great work! (= 11:12, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Thank you! I defined the earpink, comments? DappleclawTrick or Treat! Smell my feet! 21:42, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Darken the stripes, they're a bit hard to see. But I love this, great job :) Night Fall 23:04, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded - Comments? Give Thanks For Thanksgiving!Dappleclaw Talk 02:24, October 6, 2010 (UTC) This was all that I could find for him being listed as and Alt. as a She-cat. Comments? 11:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC) I just realized there was a dark patch of burn on the upper shoulder. Opps fixed it. XD 11:16, September 15, 2010 (UTC) His alternate apprentice should be a brown tabby she-cat, not ginger and white. See his trivia section. 18:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Okay i'll get to work on it sorry about that. (: 10:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Okay thats better. Comments? 21:27, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Blur the earpink, stripes, and add more stripes. 21:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC) Blur and add more stripes. Make the stripes on his tail more noticeable. 02:26, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Comments? 11:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Blur the stripes, maybe darken the shading and the ear pink. :) This is brilliant, keep it up! --Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:15, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Okay so is this file named right? 22:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC) There is a patch of gray behind the haunch, near the tail. DappleclawGod of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Where? I dont see it? 22:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC) The file should be named Pouncetail.apprentice.alt.png. Also blur the stripes a tiny bit. 22:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Oops! Sorry I think i accidentally put this comment in the wrong section! DappleclawGod of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC) Blur the earpink and the stripes a tiny bit more(Sorry if this is bothering you, but it looks a bit, unnatural.) 12:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Okay so I blured the stripes as much as I could. I hope it was enough(= 17:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Darken the ear pink as well. :) 20:34, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Okay I blured the stripes as much as I could and darkened the ear pink. 13:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC) The stripes look a bit bumpy or off-set. 17:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Could you please re-word that. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. 18:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Could you make the stripes on the upper half of the backside of the haunch have pointyer ends? Dappleclaw-_- 18:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 02:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC) There are 2 pale gray pixels on the back. I mean that the stripes are not even, like they're bumpy. :P 02:53, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Okay I tried as hard as I could to straiten the stripes but I had an issue w/ the coloring of the highlights. But I did as much as I could. And I fixed the gray lineart. (= 20:50, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Ear-pink still needs to be made bigger. 21:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Oh, im so sorry Whitestorm I didnt see your comment! (= 23:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Blur the earpink more. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC) I think it could still be bigger. XD 01:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Hmmm my picture didnt save thats the same one. O.o Fixing... 01:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Sorry that I keep bugging you, but now it needs to be blurred. :) Storm17 Birthday Time! 02:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC) This is lovely. Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. 23:28, September 21, 2010 (UTC) It looks great! The only thing I can see is to blur the ear pink. Good job! Hollydapple 15:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Thanks guys for the praises! 21:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading and blur the ear-pink and stripes more, still. 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Blur the earpink, I suggest using the blur tool, but you probably know all that ;P 00:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- I had to make it a little smaller so I wouldnt blur the lineart. (= 11:00, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink bigger, and darken the legs and ear furthest from us to give it more dimension. This image is lovely. -- 21:56, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Comments? 10:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Lovely. Blur the ear pink a tad 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- Comments? 21:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. 01:24, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Add more stripes to the tail as well Night Fall 23:06, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Since one image is declined, this should be under the limit. Comments? 15:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC) The under shading is almost to straight and just a little to dark. But it looks awsome other than that! (= 15:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Skipper is a ginger and white tom. I always imagine that like a full ginger cat with a white muzzle, paws or part of the tail. This is just a white cat with ginger patches. Does anyone else agree? Also, blur the ear pink-- 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Well I guess yeah, but I do like that color ginger and like Night shine said where the white should be I agree. But Cherryfur this is really good art good work. (= 15:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC) I also agree with Night shine, but he is still really good. Wolfwhisker I love Tigerheart! 00:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Technically, a two-colored cat (i.e. ginger and white, brown and white, black and white, brown and black, etc.) can be one color pelt with the other color muzzle, paw, tail, etc., but it can also be with patches, so I think the patches are fine as they are. I think the ginger looks a tad bit brown, though, so saturatate the ginger some. The shading goes too much from dark gray to white without much transition between, so make the shading a bit smoother, and add some shading to the face as it looks kind of bland. The shading looks like a straight line across, make it look more to match the shape of the image and direction you want the light to come from. And one more thing: change the image name from Skipper.Rogue.png to Skipper.rogue.png. 15:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Icethroat, but for some reason, I always think of a ___ and white cat is usually white bellied or white pawed. xD Make the ear-pink bigger and blur. 16:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC) I agree as with Icethroat as well, but usually a patched cat has a few big patches or smaller patches only around their back and on their head with a coloured tail. That's just me, though. Also, his eyes are very dark. 18:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC) I think the eye color is fine, Crowfeather's eyes are darker. 18:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Before I started the image, I looked at Gorsepaw and Snooky's pages. They're described as one color and white and they've got patches, so I just assumed I could do the pic like that. But now that I think of it, I probably should have done it the other way. I'm not really sure anymore xP 19:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the shading. 21:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded I'm having trouble naming the image the right name (stupid computer). So.... I can't really fix that (I just realized it was named Skipper.rogue.png.png before. Now, it's still named Skipper.Rogue.png) :\ 22:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Open the link on the image and click edit page, put the Rename Tag of {{Rename|Skipper.rogue.png}}, and then an admin will move the page and rename it for you. :) Also, the shading still looks too much of an immediate transaction, keep the paws and bottom of the legs the dark shading color, but lighten the shading between the belly and middle of the legs some to have it not so immediate. (Does that make any sense? I can re-explain if needed.) 23:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear-pink, but besides that I love it! 02:02, September 20, 2010 (UTC) He's very. . . bright. The ginger should probably be a paler colour. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear-pink and desaturate the ginger, the splotch on his tail is red to me, too. 02:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading on the white transistion. Great job. 22:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Thanks, Whitestorm, Ice, and Shadowshine (I should have thanked you in the other response, but I forgot :P). Anyway, is this better? 23:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Lighten and blur the tail patch. Blur the ear pink. 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Anything else? 23:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink smaller, it's really big. 03:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Done. Anything else? 20:09, September 22, 2010 (UTC) There is some blurred line-art around the legs, and the ear. 20:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Is there anything else? 20:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Desaturate some of the really dark patches, because they're kind of reddish. Oh, and you blurred the lineart a little bit on the tip of the tail. 23:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Sharpen and darken the patches and make the ear pink darker. 00:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I think the patches are dark enough as is. Blur the patches on the belly, legs, tail, and chest. -- 02:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Still make the ear-pink bigger and darken it. 02:58, September 23, 2010 (UTC) It doesn't need to be bigger, just fit the angle of the line-art. It doesn't need darkening, either. 03:20, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Darken the ear pink. 05:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Desaturate the patches more. They're still very bright. 21:07, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I think the ear-pink could definitely be darker. 22:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I agree. It doesn't need to be too much darker, but darker nonetheless. 01:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Is this better? 20:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC) I'd says so :) Desaturate the patches more. 21:06, September 26, 2010 (UTC) I tried to desaturate it... but it just made the patches look brown :-/. 22:31, September 26, 2010 (UTC) / That's why I like using GIMP, and making a separate layer for everything. (shading, highlights, white, ginger, etc) I don't know much about pixlr. . . 02:21, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, that's why I want to use GIMP but my computer can't download programs like that so I have to use Pixlr :(. Anyway, is there anything else to do, image wise? 19:29, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Desaturate the nose and the shaded patches. The patches on the non-shaded part of the body look fine. 20:12, September 29, 2010 (UTC) My problem with the patches is that a cat can't have patches that are that bright. 21:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Well, I don't know about patches, but in every image of Firestar or Squirrelflight, they're at least this bright. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:59, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded I darkened the non-shaded patches... but I don't know... it doesn't look different to me... 19:30, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I know that Stealth, but Firestar is described with a very distinctive and bright flame coloured coat, and Squirrelflight is said to look just like him. Skipper is just described as ginger-and-white, so we should probably go with the more likely option. 23:40, October 1, 2010 (UTC) The ear pink looks too blurred in the pelt. I think it should be defined, and darkened a tad. 01:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Anything else? 01:45, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Are you all just going to ignore me? :/ 03:54, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Lol what are we ignoring you about? And I still think that the patches are too bright.... sorry for all the fuss, but it's my opinion. Also, define the earpink a bit more. 07:00, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sorry, Mosspool. Don't feel ignored. Anyway, I don't think the patches are too bright. Brightheart has patches just about the same color. I darkened them some more, anyway. But, I guess it'll look to brown if I darken it any more. What'd you guys think? 15:23, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Brightheart's are lighter. You could try using dodge instead of desaturate. 18:14, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I did use the dodge tool. Sorry, I know this patch thing is a problem -_-". 22:19, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Hm, perhaps try desaturating the patches, and then lightening them Night Fall 23:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Huh.... is this okay? 00:25, October 6, 2010 (UTC) It's too dark, now. Sigh, this is probably bugging you some, if you need some help, I'd be happy to help you out a bit. Also, it also needs some spots on his back legs. 02:31, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Yay! My first charart (finally) for PCA. Comments? ⓔⓒⓗⓞI'm raisin the bar, I shoot for the moon, but I'm too busy gazin at stars.. 21:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC) The earpink and shading need to be blurred DappleclawIt all started with a big bang! 21:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Excellent job. Blur the shading and darken it. I would say to add a highlight to the chest, but you don't have to. Darken the ear pink and blur. 22:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Ear pink darker and blurred, the shading is a tad darker and more blurred as well. (didnt add a highlight to the chest. i didn't feel the need) EchoLeaf-fall.. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading a little bit more, and blurr the ear pink a little. 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Thicken the shading on the back, and a bit on the haunch. RiverpeltDeputy of StormClan 23:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading and thicken it. Blur the ear-pink and make it a bit lighter. 00:10, September 21, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Highlights are optional. Blur the shading. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. Also, blur the shading, and maybe thicken it on the back? 01:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC) He wasn't seen gray as an apprentice, was he? The citation on his page only mentions it when he was a kit. Please try and find one from later on or this will be declined =) Forgive me if he was; I'm being spacey :/ 02:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Oblivion~ it says on his page that he was mistakenly described as gray near the end of Twilight.. he was an apprentice by then. EchoLeaf-fall.. 23:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Thickened and darkened shading, blurred. Made earpink larger, a tad lighter, and blurred. What parts in general should be darker/lighter/blurred? EchoLeaf-fall.. 00:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Blur and add some shading to the head. This is great for your first charart. -- 00:56, September 22, 2010 (UTC) I would still blur the ear pink, and move it a little higher, it is about to touch the lineart. 03:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC) If all of Bichfall's other images arelonghaired shouldn't this one be too, for consistency? 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC) I think so. 03:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Oh, no! -slaps self on head- I never noticed. Should I redo it and post again? EchoLeaf-fall.. 20:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Its up to you. -- 21:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Instead of redoing the entire thing, which might be kinda tedious, just layer over it with a longhaired pixel.... although I can't really explain it, so maybe ask somebody else for help XD 05:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Meh. Not too tedious for me.. though I'll probably have to go through a few of the same bits of criticism... :/ Well, comments? EchoLeaf-fall.. 15:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink bigger and move it up a bit and it's hot pink right now. 16:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Blur the highlights some more. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:42, September 27, 2010 (UTC) (S) - I mean the ones on the face, and the upper haunch. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:11, September 30, 2010 (UTC) (Sorry I haven't been working on this much. I was waiting for more comments but I'll edit it tomorrow.) EchoLeaf-fall.. 02:24, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. I lightened and thickened the ear pink and blurred more, not sure if it's enough. EchoLeaf-fall.. 02:24, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights a lot. Also, move the ear-pink farther up and make it lighter. 12:45, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights on the shoulder and maybe take the highlight off the chest. It looks a bit unnatural. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:29, October 2, 2010 (UTC) I wouldn't go so far as to say "remove the highlight" but maybe rework it, because if you look at the perfectly shaded tail, the light source is coming from the top, so maybe redo the shading a bit, because it's all kinda mis-matchy =P Also blur the earpink and expand the highlight on the top of the head to the top of the ear, if the light source is coming from the top. 07:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the shading and blur the highlights. 20:49, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear pink more reddish Night Fall 23:09, October 5, 2010 (UTC) blur the highlights A LOT My first charart! 22:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Add ear-pink. Also, blur the shading and highlights. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Maybe add eye shading, or make them brighter, make the herbs different colours to. It's very nice for a first charart! 22:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Make the herbs a bit brighter and add shading to it. 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights and shading. 23:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC) For some reason it won't show the updated version :( 23:57, September 20, 2010 (UTC) Just upload it later or tomorrow. 00:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Thicken the shading, darken and blur the stripes and add shading to the tail, add ear pink, fix the blurred lineart on the body and tail. 00:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC) (S) - I agree, nice for a first charart, but...should he have mud stripes? I'm not sure... Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC) The healer never leaves the cave, so it doesn't seem like he'd need them, but i'm not sure 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC) No, he wouldn't have mud stripes. Wow, this is good for your first! Blur the shading in the haunch, add shading to the herbs and add some ear pink. Sunleap 01:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC) I think he should have the stripes. They are on his alternate image! Blur the shading and might I suggest making the eyes a little more amber? They look almost brown now. 12:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Starlingflight; his healer image has mud, so this one should too, for consistency. Blur the shading and highlights a ton, and add earpink. 19:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Should I do the white muzzle too? 22:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC) I don't know about the white muzzle, but blur the highlights. 22:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded I still have work to do on it 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink bigger. 00:23, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights on the haunch. 00:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Add more stripes. 03:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Darken the earpink. 07:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Blur the stripes on his front legs more. Sunleap 21:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Add mud streaks. His original image has them-- 22:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink darker and maybe a little more pinkish. 22:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Shouldn't he have mud streaks since he is part of the Tribe of Rushing Water? Rainear Let the rain guide you 23:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC) I think that, because you've blurred it, the stripes have become less visible and patchy. So just add more of those and define them, darken the ear pink and add the mud stripes and there you are. 05:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC) I'm not sure, do the healers have mud stripes? 13:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Yes, Stoneteller's current healer image has one. Kittypet, please add mud streaks. 21:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded I tried to copy the mud designs on his current image. Sorry it took so long, I got held up with homework. 22:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC) I'm not sure if this is just the stripes, but there is some blurred line-art on the leg and tail. 16:36, September 26, 2010 (UTC) I think that's just the stripes. I'm not completely sure, tho. 15:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC) (S) - I don't think he would have that many streaks on his haunch. Please remove some. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:45, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded I added some stripes so it doesn't look so bare. Tell me if you don't like it. 00:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC) (S) - No, I like it. Nice job! Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:22, September 30, 2010 (UTC) The shading looks sort of blotchy. Maybe blend it or blur it in more. 22:41, September 30, 2010 (UTC) I would darken the mud stripes some more. Also, maybe add a mud stripe on one of his legs, so they aren't all centered in one area. 12:43, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Ugh. I tried reuploading it but it won't show the new version. 20:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I like dis one! lol comments? :3 Mossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 21:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Isn't this the 31st? 21:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC) This looks great! You might want to make the ear-pink slightly larger, but besides that it looks great! 22:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Define and make the ear pink a little bigger like Whitestorm already stated above. Great Job! :) -- 22:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC) Beautiful. Darken the chest shading and define the ear pink a tad. Other than that, this is just lovely. Well done. 22:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC) RE-UPLOADED thanks for the nice comments everyone! :D and well I fixed everything XD anything else?Mossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 12:39, September 24, 2010 (UTC) D Awesome! If you can, maybe make the stripes a bit thicker? 17:00, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Theres a tiny bit of color outside of the lineart on the back. 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC) And some color around the neck. 13:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Isn't that the shading? :3 15:37, September 25, 2010 (UTC) The stripes are off compared to his elder image. 16:34, September 26, 2010 (UTC) They look pretty similar to me; other thoughts on this? 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC) I honestly cant see the diffrence with the elder image also if I try to make the stripes thicker they looks like blobs XDMossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 02:56, September 27, 2010 (UTC) This is beautiful. Leave him be =) I honestly think that to do any more would be to ruin it. 21:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Agreed. Comments before approval? 21:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC) There is a little gray patch on both sides of his neck. Just erase that and you're good to go! 02:32, September 29, 2010 (UTC) I will do that but i cant noe because im only on my laptop with no saved pictures I will as soon as I get back on Friday (read userpage)Mossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 12:38, September 29, 2010 (UTC) RE-UPLOADED im back! :D anything else? :3Mossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 18:23, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Still no comments? I feel like ive been waiting a trillion years also MAH SISTERS HAVIN A BABY! (happy dance).--☀☯Mossleap◻◼My icecream is on fire! 01:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC) This is a well done image, define the stripes on the tail a bit. And congratz! :D 01:26, October 5, 2010 (UTC) RE-UPLOADED thanks Frostheart Im so exited! anyways since GIMP hates me I think I made them worse XD but eh anything else? lol.--☀☯Mossleap◻◼My icecream is on fire! 12:50, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Congrats on your niece/nephew! Anyways, the ear pink looks a little large. Try making it a bit smaller. 14:13, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I'm not sure, the ear pink looks fine to me. This is beautiful, by the way! Night Fall 23:10, October 5, 2010 (UTC) - Not that happy with this one. The patches were hard to do. Comments? -- 02:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Add/darken shading, blur the patches, and make them look more like his kittypet image. 02:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Oblivion. Add a bit more patches, and blur the ear pink. Good Job. -- 02:19, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the ear-pink a lot and blur it. 02:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded: The earpink looks funny. I'll get at it later. For now, I can't add any more patches, pixlr is mad at me at the moment -_- But feel free to add some patches if necessary. Comments? 04:46, September 24, 2010 (UTC) It looks more gray than black to me 18:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading more and blur the head spots, define the spot on the tail that looks like a 'I'. 20:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC) I've only done him for a day and I've lost interest. Sorry, patched cats are just not my thing. Please withdraw this. 01:05, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Then can I do Macgyver (W), please Sunspirit, I was waiting to do another Charart for a while now :( Rainear Let the rain guide you 01:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Sure. 07:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Thanks :D Rainear Let the rain guide you 08:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Rainear, there is something weird going on with the ear. :) 13:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC) I'll get right on it :D Rainear Let the rain guide you 16:02, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded-Fixed ear-pink shape. Comments? Rainear Let the rain guide you 18:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear pink, and add/darken the shading. Also try to make the patches look more similar to his Kittypet image. -- 19:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC) Maybe just redo the image. 04:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Yes that might be wise because his patches look more like wiggly lines than patches on fur (no offence mean't). But if you don't want to just maybe make the patches on his tail a little bigger. 08:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC) (S) - If you don't, darken the shading and lighten the earpink. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:15, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Reloaded- I redid the Image hopr ya like it. Comments? Rainear Let the rain guide you 00:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC) It looks flat to me... idk 00:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Try to make it look more like his kittypet image. 00:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Blur the patches and the earpink 04:29, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I think that there are too few patches. Blur whatever patches are there. Blur the ear-pink, desaturate it a little and maybe make a little smaller. Add a little more shading on his body and tail. Erase the little coloured patch sticking right above his muzzle and nose. 09:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC) You have the sides of his face mixed up. 22:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC) (S) - I can't see the shading at all. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - The earpink is too bright. It would be the color of a black cat's. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:26, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Yes, darken the ear-pink. I think you should either make the patches bigger or add more, because there is a lot more white than black. 12:33, October 2, 2010 (UTC) I agree, you need to add a bunch more and blur. 01:25, October 5, 2010 (UTC) My first char art comments? Maplepool 18:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Took it out of thumnail for you. Add transparency, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png, blur the shading and earpink. 18:56, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded better? I didn't mean to add png on the end, it does it automatically... If this makes it easier, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 19:13, September 26, 2010 (UTC) It looks more silver than gray. Maybe darken it a shade more. 09:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - You don't need to upload a new image every time, just upload over the old one. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:28, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Darken and blur ear-pink. Also, I can't really see the highlights. 12:30, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded better? i think i gave him a 'Cinderpelt' gray my blur tool was really weak so u might not see what i blured and i did my best on my the highlights made him darker meh comments? Maplepool 14:49, October 2, 2010 (UTC) De-thumbed. Add a little shading between his ears. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:27, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Either darken the shading or brighten the highlights. Otherwise, this is great. 20:53, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded hows tht?btw to get it out of thumnail do i click full size...?Maplepool 12:23, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Yes, click full size. Blur the ear-pink. 14:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC) omg it wont let me reupload -_- Maplepool 17:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Just relax, Maplepool, and do it another time. 01:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC) mmkay'Maplepool 12:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Ok Reuploaded well?Maplepool 19:19, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Darken the pelt color, and make the ear pink more reddish. Center the ear pink on <--- this ear more Night Fall 23:13, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded so comments? again i think i made him TO dark but....mehMaplepool 23:59, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear-pink a lot, darken the shading. Did you add highlights? 02:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Ugh. I'm going to kill GIMP. Stupid...it wouldn't blur the shading or highlights enough. I think I'm going to re-do this on Pixlr xP 19:49, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights ^_^ Maybe make his eye a bit more yellow? It looks really orange now. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, blur the highlights a lot. Also, there seems to be a highlight on the far leg but not the close one, and lighten the entire thing a tiny bit. His ear pink also looks like a circle and it's very red. Also, I'm a bit confused because it says alt rogue but the image is alt warrior. 20:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Okay, I'll work on this later today. The highlights can't blur anymore. 21:01, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the entire image and darken the highlights. The ear-pink is also like..blood red. :P 21:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded: I re-did the whole thing. 23:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC) The highlights still don't look very blurred. Might I offer some tips? I'm assuming you use the same layer for shading/highlights and colour, so just lock the layer. (In the layer bar, there's an option that says lock: with a gray checker pattern square and check box beside it, check the box) then just go to Filters> Blur> Gaussian Blur and blur it however much you need to. It's best to take away ear pink and eye colour before doing so (if they're on the same layer) so they don't blur too. Mind you, this will blur the shading too but it works well. 00:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC) He looks a bit like a vampire! =P Make the eyes less red, make the ear pink lighter and make it more triangular. His tail looks like it's gray tipped. Try to change that to make it look more black. It's great otherwise. 09:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC) (S) - Blur the highlights. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded: Dovesong, I had tried that, but it just seemed to blur the entire image, even the lineart. I attempted to blur it a bit more. I hope it worked. I changed the eye colour and changed the ear pink. 21:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Do you have the lineart and colour on the same layer? 'Cause if you do, it won't work. 21:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC) It looks great now! I think you should darken the highlights a touch, because the change of colour between the actual fur and the highlight is quite startling. I think it'll be perfect then. 05:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I guess that'd work too :) Make the ear pink bigger and lighter, and make the eyes more yellow. Maybe we could make them pale blue, since he's described with that eye colour, so we'd have an alt. for that, too? IDK, probably a dumb idea :/ 02:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC) That sounds like a good idea to me. ;D The highlights are still very bright and make the ear-pink more triangular. 02:51, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Wait... shouldn't this be declined because we are discussing alternate images? 12:28, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Oh wait, yes it should. 01:13, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I don't think ALL the alternate images should be declined. Just the ones that are minor or injury included. 03:25, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Does this need to be declined too? 22:28, October 4, 2010 (UTC) No, it can stay up. 22:31, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded: Alright, done. 21:03, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the earpink a tad 23:03, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Okay my first character art. I had some trouble shading, but I think I did ok. Tell me what you think! I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 01:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC) The ear is still very red and it is oddly shaped. 00:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC) De-thumbed. Smooth out the shading and darken the ear-pink. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:58, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Ignore my previous comment, that should be on Darkstripe's warrior image, anyways, the shading and highlights look kinda sloppy and steaky. Make the ear-pink smaller. 03:02, September 27, 2010 (UTC) How about now? I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 10:43, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Okay, blur highlights. And in answer to the comment above, is that your sig? Because it isn't showing up properly. Clarrissa!☆My talkpage! 17:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Thicken and blur the shading. LOL, in Urban Planet there was a shirt that said that, but I didn't get it :P (The High Five Face Thing) 21:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC) De-thumbed. Blur the shading under the jaw. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Now how is it?! I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 00:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Rename this Minnowtail.kit.alt.png. Darken and blur shading, blur ear pink-- 05:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Also, make the ear-pink smaller, and maybe darker. Darken shading though. 12:26, October 2, 2010 (UTC) There is something going on with the ear-pink. 19:40, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Wait wait wait... I thought I reserved this! Mistfire 01:17, October 3, 2010 (UTC) This will have to be declined. We are currently discussing whether we should have alt images. SunspiritHappy Birthday Whitestorm! 02:15, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Sunspirit, with all the other alt images (and some approved recently) this SHOULD be fine. 03:24, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Didn't Mistfire reserve this? It's on the Reserve Table. 12:25, October 4, 2010 (UTC) It's true that Mistfire reserved it, but I believe it's been more than two weeks. 14:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC) The ear-pink still looks rather oddly smudged. I think you should add a few more highlights on the face, chest and tail. It's great otherwise. 11:24, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Rippletail is mentioned as a she-cat in Twilight and on page 161, she is shown to be silver pelted. My first Charart! Comments? 08:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlight on the haunch. 15:35, September 27, 2010 (UTC) It's great for a first charart! Blur the haunch and add a highlight to the muzzle. Clarrissa!☆My talkpage! 17:37, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Darken the highlights, it's really 'white' right now. :P 00:18, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded- Darkened the highlights, blurred the haunch, moved the face highlight from the face to the muzzle. Anything else? 05:08, September 28, 2010 (UTC) So is that it? Should I correct anything else? 12:18, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Wow, all I can say is make the highlights more visible. Looks great :) 21:37, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded- Re-named the file Rippletail.apprentice.alt (yeah I know it should've been done first!), Tried to make the highlights more visible, but I won't dare to do it more because they're looking white otherwise. Blurred it a little more too. 09:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlight on her haunch. 00:07, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded- Blurred the higlights on her haunch as much as I could, changed the shading around on her haunch a little bit, since it looked a little blotchy. Also tried to center the highlight on her haunch. Anything else? 10:56, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Hmm... darken the shading around the haunch, I think that might help the highlight look better. Also, move the ear-pink farther up and lighten it. 12:24, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Make it silvery (more) and darken the tail. 20:00, October 2, 2010 (UTC) This will have to be declined. We are currently debating about alt images. SunspiritHappy Birthday Whitestorm! 02:16, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Okay everyone, I'll start working on it tomorrow, because I'm at my aunt's house now and technically I can't go on the Internet. I just snuck a few moments in anyway. I promise I'll work on it on Monday. And, Sunspirit, I doubt it will be declined, since there are hundreds of alternate cat images all across the wiki where cats have been shown with different coloured pelts. I really hope it's not declined. Thanks again. 07:13, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded- Okay I lightened the image entirely and I also did the shading around the whole image again, especially the haunch area. I darken the tail as well and lightened and raised the ear pink using the smudge tool. Comments? 08:42, October 4, 2010 (UTC) This is too 'white'. Darken it. It needs to be more of a silvery color, right now, it's kinda just silver shading around a white cat. 01:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded- Actually that was the very thing I was worried about Frostheart! =P Okay, I darkened the whole image. Comments? 09:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC) The eye looks blurred. 01:58, October 6, 2010 (UTC) No, it's not blurred. 02:28, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Blurr the shading a lot. I like the collar :) 19:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading. 19:52, September 27, 2010 (UTC) LOL, rainbow collar. Blur the shading some more, and his pupils are very. . . uh, thick? XD 21:35, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. He looks very stylish, does he not? :D Blurred shading, and his pupils are big like that because it's dark xD 21:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading a tad and make the ear-pink bigger. 21:58, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading, and the earpink is big enough, I think :D 22:08, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading. Cobaltpaw ღ 22:24, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading on her hind flank. Maybe add a bit of shading inside the ears? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading. The light source is coming from the left, so the shading cannot be on the left ear. 22:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Love the collar. :P Blur the shading on the haunch a bit. --Dawnleaf 22:50, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Thicken the shading-- 23:13, September 27, 2010 (UTC) RAINDOW COLLARS! FTW! lol anyways The ear-pink looks..strange it looks like the side of the tip is gone I hope you understood that XDMossleap You burnt my ice cream!!! 23:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Fixed earpink, blurred and thickened shading. 00:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Did you add shading to the nose? If you did, nevermind. xD Darken the shading on the tail. 02:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC) The nose doesn't have to have shading, its optional. -- 03:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I personally don't like the big pupils, they kinda scare me, but that's okay. At the bottom of the ear there seems to be a small chunk of ear pink missing. 03:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I know it is optional, but I personally think that it adds more depth and image to it (even if it is just a tiny bit). 04:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC) I think you should blur the transition between the shading since it look rather abrupt. And I do think you should carry out Frostheart's idea; it sounds pretty cool actually! =P 10:21, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading, and I think there's shading on his nose xD I don't know what you meant by the ear pink, Mosspool, but I think I fixed it. 00:11, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading. I love the rainbow collar. It's a nice alternative :) 10:21, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. 02:10, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Blur the tail shading and this should be ready. 01:45, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred tail shading. Thanks Mousetalon :) 01:51, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Try to blur the transition on the tail some more. 12:22, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred tail shading a lot. 17:42, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Define the ear pink a bit. 01:16, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Defined earpink. 01:35, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Just darken the shading a bit. If I was a senior warrior, I'd have CBA-ified this (after you darkened the shading, obviously). It looks awesome! 23:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Mosspool :) Darkened shading. 23:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I like the collar. It's a nice change from the usual green or blue ones. Blur the shading a tad. Other than that, I really wish I could go, "CBA?" 23:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading. Thanks for the compliments on the collar, everyone =) 00:10, October 5, 2010 (UTC) This is wonderful. I can see nothing wrong. :) 23:38, October 6, 2010 (UTC) My first charart! Comments? ^^ 13:31, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Hmm.. there is somethin wierd going on with the shading on the back. I think you need to blur it some more or something. 21:18, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Yeah, blur the shading, and thicken it a bit, too. I think you accidentally blurred the eye. Nice job, though ^ ^ 01:34, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Something looks wrong with the eyes to me, I'm not sure if it is just the style, Darken the shading on the paw on the far right. 14:42, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading on paw, blurred shading on back, (tried to) fix eyes. 20:17, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Hmmm.. darken the ear-pink just a little bit. It looks really great besides that! 12:21, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Darkened ear pink. What else? 12:55, October 2, 2010 (UTC) I think you mispelled the file name, rename it Tawnypelt.kit.alt.png. 13:01, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Sorry, Whitestorm, it won't let me rename it, and when I try to overwrite the existing image with mine, it doesn't work. I'm going with Tawnpelt2.kit.alt.png right now, but if you figure out the problem, please tell me! ^^ 13:31, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Your eyes are blurred a lot. Fix it and try to follow the guide for kit eyes. 14:56, October 2, 2010 (UTC) HOW CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Moonshine13 It's great to get compliments, but you're not supposed to say anything unless it's constructive, unfortunately. She looks a little too golden, it helps to make the shading more gingery. 02:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. 03:20, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading; made shading more gingery (okay, more orangey). 19:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the entire thing and make her even gingery. 23:00, October 4, 2010 (UTC) The shading is in a triangle shape. Make it thinner. 04:28, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I uploaded my image over this one but it's not showing yet. If it doesn't show up I'll just upload it with a different name. 22:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Ok here it is. Comments? 22:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Aww, he looks so cute :3 Just lighten the highlights and maybe make the one on the tail a bit bigger. 01:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. Thanks Mosspool :). I tweaked the tail highlight a bit but I think he'll start to look more like a dark gray cat if I lighten the body highlights any. Comments? 19:57, September 29, 2010 (UTC) By lightened I meant make them less visible. Isn't that what lightened means, or did I miss something? :P 21:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC) I don't think so in charart ways..I thought it means the same thing as brighten. xD I think darken makes it less visible, confused. o-o 14:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC) I thought brighten meant make them more, umm, see-able (xD) and darken and lighten made them. . . less see-able. Oh, well, whatever, I meant darken them. 21:21, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Wow, it's way better than when I did it! Blur the highlights a tad. 02:51, October 1, 2010 (UTC) I think the color of the highlights is good. I'll see what I can do about the blurring and Thanks 23:30, October 1, 2010 (UTC). To answer your question it depends on what you're talking about. When it comes to shading darken means to make more visible and lighten meand make it less visible. It's the opposite with highlights. 23:36, October 1, 2010 (UTC) I think I know what Mosspool means, almost all of his body is covered in highlights. Maybe you should remove some? 12:19, October 2, 2010 (UTC) That would change the quality of the image. 12:40, October 2, 2010 (UTC) I think the highlights look lovely! Blur the earpink just a little bit. 01:36, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Well, the highlights just look a little too, umm, distinctive to me. 18:02, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Oh! Also, maybe you should lighten the ear pink because on his warrior image, everybody's telling me to lighten the ear pink, and we want them to be consistent, obviously. 18:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. The earpink color is fine. 19:58, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Uhh, well, like I said, everybody told me to. 21:55, October 4, 2010 (UTC) But they didn't tell me to. This color is acceptable for a black cat and it's staying. 19:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I agree, it's a nice color for the cat. The tail shading/highlights look odd. 02:26, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Okay, well, what ear pink colour are we going with, then? They need to be the same. 04:10, October 6, 2010 (UTC) ritiscism and comments please! Sunleap 22:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC) The shading is hard to see, and you could defind the earpink a tad, plus the nose looks gray, color that the same as the earpink. Dappleclaw 22:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sunleap 22:45, September 28, 2010 (UTC) This looks great! Lighten the ear pink. Maybe make the nose dark gray since she is a gray cat.-- 05:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sunleap 21:30, October 1, 2010 (UTC) This looks fantastic! I suggest making the twinkle and pupil in the eye more noticeable, it looks blurred on my computer. 01:44, October 2, 2010 (UTC) The nose is kinda (really) dark. xD Lighten it some. 02:49, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights. 03:53, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sunleap 12:42, October 2, 2010 (UTC) There is blurred lineart on the arm, fix that. 01:51, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Sunleap 13:25, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the nose a tad a bit more. 03:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Not praticularly happy with this one. Comments and thoughts? 22:29, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Is it just me or does the linart on the face look grayish? Don't forget to color the nose, and the earpink could be more of a triangle shape, and really blur the shading. Dappleclaw 22:32, September 28, 2010 (UTC) It does look kinda grayish to me, and the nose does not need coloring. xD 22:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC) But his rogue image has color, shouldn't this one too for consitancy? Dappleclaw 23:02, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded- 23:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the shading, add more shading to the face. Darken the nose. 04:00, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Rr-uploaded. 23:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC) (S) - The nose is dark gray. Mosswhisker & Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:34, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Black cats have gray/black noses. 23:52, September 30, 2010 (UTC) That's true but his rogue image has a pink nose. We either need to make this nose pink or the rogue nose gray. 19:59, October 1, 2010 (UTC) We should make the rogue nose gray. 21:53, October 1, 2010 (UTC) I agree, it's quite odd for a black cat to have a pink nose. 02:48, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Blur the transition between the highlights and shading. 03:51, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded 05:43, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading some more. 12:17, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Darken the ear pink to a reddish colour. 01:48, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Extend the shadows on the tail and define the ear pink. The highlight on top of the tail seems a bit unnatural, since there's shadow on his lower legs and paws. idk. Great job so far! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 04:21, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded 16:36, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the transition between the shading. 21:39, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Is it just me, or does the head line-art look a bit rough? 03:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded 04:04, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink more triangular, it's kinda a blob to me right now. 02:25, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Great one! I love the spotted collar and the shading. Maybe add a touch of highlight to the tail. 11:34, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Re-Uploaded 22:31, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Swallowflight's warrior image. Constructments? Looks great! Darken the shading and lighten the ear pink.-- 03:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Thanks! I'll get right on the shading thing, but I don't think I'm going to change the ear pink unless the ear pink on Ashy's rogue image for him is changed, too, and if you suggest it there and she changes I will too. 03:59, September 29, 2010 (UTC) ~Re-uploaded~ Done. 21:19, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Anytime I could use a comment now, guys. . . 21:52, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Most of the paws are light but then theres one thats dark. :P Not sure how to say that exactly...so hopefully you can find that. xO 02:47, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Which one? I'm assuming you mean the back right paw, since it looks the darkest to me. . . 19:05, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Darken the tail shading, other than that, smoothly done. 01:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Lighten the ear pink. This is very beautiful :3 SunspiritHappy Birthday Whitestorm! 02:19, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading and brighten the highlights. 03:18, October 4, 2010 (UTC) ~Re-uploaded~ Did all the suff you told me to. I think it's a fail now XP 21:54, October 4, 2010 (UTC) This is really great. :) Make the ear-pink a tad bit reddishier. :P Not a word, but anyways, it looks a bit brown to me. 02:23, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Sorry, not changing the ear pink right now because it needs to be the same for both of his images, idk what the heck we're doing. 21:56, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Well, then make it red? Since his rogue image's ear-pink is a red color. 01:22, October 7, 2010 (UTC) I really hope this isn't declined. Comments? I hope the line art looks okay-- 03:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Maybe make the legs less. . . straight? Ha ha, I guess I mean they aren't curved enough and it looks a but unnatural (I hope you understood that |:P) 03:57, September 29, 2010 (UTC) I think this is going to be declined. We're currently debating about whether to add Brightheart's injured side of the face and we're still thinking about injuries. 04:05, September 29, 2010 (UTC) I agree, it should be declined. 21:01, September 30, 2010 (UTC) I agree about why my brightheart image is being debated, but Briarlight didn't become a warrior until she had been injured for quite some time. I'm torn about if it should be declined though. :P Oh, by the way, where is the whole injuries debate being discussed at? I tried to skim a little, but I usually don't go to the forums so I have no clue. xDKitties Ruleda WORLD!Mumble sees a kitty!!! 13:32, October 2, 2010 (UTC) It's good, but I agree that if there is any chance of it NOT being declined, the legs need it be curved and more natural. Try looking at her warrior picture to get an idea for the legs. Wolfwhisker GO FALLOWFERN! 01:41, October 7, 2010 (UTC) Hm, I looked at her warrior picture. Can someone draw me a diagram? I'm not quite sure how to change the legs like you described-- 01:46, October 7, 2010 (UTC) Not so proud with this one. -- 07:15, September 29, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights and darken the shading. -- 00:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Brighten the highlights. 20:57, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Add shading to the head. 01:44, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded: Better? SunspiritHappy Birthday Whitestorm! 02:07, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Move the highlight along the back onto the chest area. -- 02:11, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights. 21:36, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. 01:22, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
* facepalm* Took me long enough! :) Constructments? 20:33, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Blur the highlights, and lighten his entire body; the lineart is really hard to see. 20:41, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Make the highlights more noticable, I can't really see them. 20:54, September 30, 2010 (UTC) The highlights coming from his back, Whitestorm. Darken the shading and lighten the entire image. Make the ear-pink bigger and the torn ear..looks unnatural. :P Blur the highlights. 22:09, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Thankies! :) 20:09, October 1, 2010 (UTC) I don't know, the highlights look really odd this way on a black cat. And they really need to be blurred. 02:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Snickers, what do you mean by "Thankies! :)" :P Anyways, darken the shading. 01:20, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Any better? @Frostheart 'Thankies' is a different way of saying thank you. 22:49, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I know that, I was just kind of confused as to why you would just say thank you instead of reuploading the image. xD The highlights still need to be blurred, if you are having trouble with that, I could blur it for you. 02:21, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Hope this goes better than yesterday... I'm not quite sure how to do the furry texture on her medicine cat image. Comments for approval/advice? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:08, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Make the scars a bit thinner and add shading to the herbs. The texture looks a bit odd. 22:10, September 30, 2010 (UTC) I know the texture looks odd, but i'm not sure how they did it on her MC charart, i just tried to copy it (and utterly failed) I'll fix the scars once I finish English hw. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:10, September 30, 2010 (UTC) I know how to do furry texture, I could do it for you. 23:34, September 30, 2010 (UTC) Thanks, but I need to learn to do it myself, maybe a tutorial or directions would be better... idk. If you wanted to do it, feel free to. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:06, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. If anyone wants to do the furry texture, they can, so long as it's alright with Bramble and Oblivion. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:06, October 1, 2010 (UTC) I'm sure it'd be fine if Mosspool did the furriness for you, Scarletwind :) Rename the image Yellowfang.mca 02:51, October 1, 2010 (UTC) All right, I'll try that, then! :3 02:54, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Ehh, I think I'll try explaining it, actually. It's. . . you. . .(trying to make it understandable ha ha) you use highlights the make the furry texture, and smudge it, but make sure you got in same direction, instead of every which way. I think that's a good explanation. I just said so because I didn't think I'd be able to explain it, and furry texture is hard, whe I did her alt. mca image I had to redo the furriness like fifty times before I actually got it right. 02:57, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Thanks a million, Dovesong! I owe you one! ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded. I'm still trying on the fuzzyness. But Mosspool, you're welcome to do the texture and I'll be sure to give you credit for it. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:53, October 1, 2010 (UTC) Blur the ear pink. 23:35, October 1, 2010 (UTC) The herbs could be darkened. 03:48, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. Okay, I think I figured out how to do her pelt! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading. 01:43, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:55, October 3, 2010 (UTC) This is beautiful! I like the way you did the texture, and the shading on the herbs =) Perhaps darken the earpink a little bit, because it looks kinda wispy =P 05:52, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 15:39, October 3, 2010 (UTC) The texture looks different from her other images, stilll, though. 18:00, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded. Look any better? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 18:54, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the texture. 22:26, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I think the texture looks beautiful. It really doesn't need much tweaking. 22:39, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I don't really think it looks like the complete same yet. But it's pretty close. Lighten the shading a tad. 01:16, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:37, October 5, 2010 (UTC) I think the only criticism I can find is that you should maybe decrease the furriness near the top of the haunch, since it looks like the black portion is sort of extending a little too far into the highlight. Absolutely brilliant otherwise. Love the texture! 11:39, October 6, 2010 (UTC) Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:37, October 7, 2010 (UTC) Here is Sunstar! Fourth charart. With all the other alt images up for approval, I'm pretty sure this should be fine. 01:38, October 3, 2010 (UTC) This is well done. Define the ear pink and darken the shading, the front of the haunch, and the midriff. Darken the highlight on the muzzle. 01:41, October 3, 2010 (UTC) He was bright ginger, no? Make the colour more like Firestar's. 01:42, October 3, 2010 (UTC) And maybe give him yellow eyes, since he was falsely described with them as well. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:50, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Define the ear pink. -- 02:08, October 3, 2010 (UTC) You decide which ones better. 02:14, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Ohh... So tough! I love the technique you used in the first one so thats a win for me. Just make him a brighter ginger color like Firestar. There both so pretty X( SunspiritHappy Birthday Whitestorm! 02:24, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I like the one on the left better. Its more consitant of his alternative desription. I would also make him more of a brighter ginger colour like Sunspirit pointed out above. -- 02:28, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Done. 02:32, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Desaturate it a bit, and make it look more orange then reddish. -- 02:35, October 3, 2010 (UTC) If I desaturate it, then make it more reddish, it ends up with the same product. o_o 02:52, October 3, 2010 (UTC) I like the one on the left better, but what's with the dark gray corner of the picture?? 05:54, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Okay, I chose the left one and I fixed the gray thing. :3 15:08, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading. 16:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Make the ear-pink more noticable, I can't see it. 21:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. 21:59, October 3, 2010 (UTC) Blur the shading on his tail. 00:32, October 4, 2010 (UTC) The shading on the back of the neck looks a bit rough, maybe smooth it out with the blur tool? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:18, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I don't think he should have an alt. for this, because orange and ginger are the same colour. 05:37, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I think it's quite red; you should maybe make it a little lighter. And is it me or do the shaded areas look like they have lines running through them? Maybe blur them a little more. Otherwise I think it's great! 08:28, October 4, 2010 (UTC) I don't think I should make it redder, since it is a bright ginger, like Firestar but not as red as him. But anyways, I wouldn't make it lighter because people would just ask me to make it 'more ginger' again. And the lines are the texture. 14:33, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Like I just said, I don't think he needs an alt. for this, as ginger and orange are the same colour. 21:40, October 4, 2010 (UTC) But his real image is like yellow. I'm not sure if this should really have an image, if not, decline this, but can I get a lead's opinion on this? Like Oblivion or Bramble? :3 And this one doesn't have stripes, either. 22:22, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Maybe my eyes are failing me, but this image seems to look a heck of a lot different from Sunstar's deputy image. Looks pretty alternate to me. 22:36, October 4, 2010 (UTC) Blurred the tail shading, fixed shoulder/back shading and stuff. :3 01:19, October 5, 2010 (UTC) It does look different, but orange is a symonom for ginger, and they're not always going to say the almost yellow tom, they might just shorten it to bright ginger because because it's his base coat and quicker to say. 04:40, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Also, almost yellow isn't even cited on his page. The only thing cited is his eye colour and base coat. 04:42, October 5, 2010 (UTC) The ear pink is rather out of place with the base coat; it looks quite dull. Maybe saturate it a little and decrease the size. 08:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC) If I saturate it, it becomes orange. 14:39, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Perhaps make it a touch redder. 19:44, October 5, 2010 (UTC) Guys! Are you listening to me at all? As I just said, it does look different, but orange is a symonom for ginger, and they're not always going to say the almost yellow tom, they might just shorten it to bright ginger because because it's his base coat and quicker to say. 21:29, October 5, 2010 (UTC). Mosspool, I honestly don't know what to say because I do not want to get in a quarrel, and I don't think you should really flip out over it either, if you were flipping out, anyways. xD But I'll wait until Oblivion or Bramble tell me whether or not he should have an alternate image. 02:19, October 6, 2010 (UTC) I know, it`s that now it has happened to me for the third time where I`ve asked a question and everybody ignored me. . . it gets annoying xD I`m not trying to start a quarrel, and I guess we should wait until Bramble or Oblivion say something. . . 02:56, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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