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| - This wins PvE. With a few changes (attributes (11Le, 11SM, 8Co), rez, no ToF), I use this all the time. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 21:03, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Yeah my friend runs it in hard mode, we have 3 Savannah Heat eles and an SF to ensure burning, we never need a res because nobody dies =). - Skakid9090 21:06, 6 July 2007 (CEST) You know, I can't think of anyone dieing while I ran this either. Some PUG genius called me a noob for using Focused Anger though, gg. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 21:11, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Yeah Krow Man, Incoming is SO much better. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:08, 7 July 2007 (CEST)
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| - This wins PvE. With a few changes (attributes (11Le, 11SM, 8Co), rez, no ToF), I use this all the time. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 21:03, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Yeah my friend runs it in hard mode, we have 3 Savannah Heat eles and an SF to ensure burning, we never need a res because nobody dies =). - Skakid9090 21:06, 6 July 2007 (CEST) You know, I can't think of anyone dieing while I ran this either. Some PUG genius called me a noob for using Focused Anger though, gg. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 21:11, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Yeah Krow Man, Incoming is SO much better. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:08, 7 July 2007 (CEST) Build could definately use a skill icon variants list. Shireensysop 21:15, 6 July 2007 (CEST) How do I do that? - Skakid9090 21:23, 6 July 2007 (CEST) {skill icon|Name Skill} and add at lesat 2 sets of 3 chains or whatever for the option sets. Would make this look a lot less like a stub. Use -{{ on it though (2 instead of one). Its gonna show up with text next to it, so I suggest you bullet them. A list of 5 or six skills would help flesh this out quite a bit. Somewhere else (shadow prison sin) there is an example of how to do mini skill bars as well. Shireensysop 21:25, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Those are not needed. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:34, 6 July 2007 (CEST) it looks cool anyway =P - Skakid9090 21:38, 6 July 2007 (CEST) I created redirects on GWiki to the proper skill pages. Note that they use double quotation marks while you uploaded the pics with single ones. Not a problem anymore. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 21:40, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Thanks. I fixed it. - Skakid9090 21:58, 6 July 2007 (CEST) People need to look through the vetted sections before posting their builds. This build is the same as Build:P/R_Critical_Spear, except it uses the new skills. Add those new skills to the variants of P/R crit spear, and this build is completely trashed. --8765 23:12, 6 July 2007 (CEST) Uh, no. There is a 4 skill similarilty and this one is used more defensively than offensively. - Skakid9090 23:22, 6 July 2007 (CEST) focused anger+aggressive refrain+gfte=mass energy for whatever you want to do after. The foundation of both builds are identical. Whether you choose to use a spear attack or another shout, makes the builds just variants of each other. "Save yourselves!" is somewhat unnecessary since "they're on fire" and "there's nothing to fear" together make for crazy damage reduction. --8765 03:53, 7 July 2007 (CEST) it's not enough. that build doesnt do shit it spams GFTE and does nothing with the insane amount of energy it provides. this build provides a party-wide ~60% damage reduction and +100 armor. it was designed for hard mode, where even with 60 redux you can still get hit by a boss spirit rift/shatterstone/ect. for 200 dmg. This one is a lot more defensive and any team would be begging for this para. the foundation for all sword warrior builds on the wiki but they all perform different functions. over-merging is bad. - Skakid9090 03:59, 7 July 2007 (CEST) Ok. So it's not enough. Show us something better, don't just give unproductive complaints, but contribute some solutions too. Yamagawa This build makes vanquishing anywhere a joke. -Punjab 07:20, 9 July 2007 (CEST) WTB New name lol. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 08:14, 9 July 2007 (CEST) me too i couldnt think of anything =P - Skakid9090 20:31, 9 July 2007 (CEST) How about Focused PvE Paragon :)? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:51, 9 July 2007 (CEST) why bother have "they're on fire!" why anthem of flame is much better? kullwarrior Should be paired with a teammate who can spread burning, such as with Searing Flames or Mark of Rodgort. more reduction the better imo - Skakid9090 02:48, 11 July 2007 (CEST) Because it isn't? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:48, 11 July 2007 (CEST) If you're going P/W, why not just go whole-hog support and bring in "Watch Yourself!" instead of GFTE while replacing tactics for command points? It'll add another ~20 party-wide AL, which only makes things easier in hard mode. If you're in an archer-heavy area (like hard-mode spider cave), "Shields Up!" is another option. -Jayemji 05:38, 12 July 2007 Because they don't stack, and GftE is better the "WY"? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:30, 12 July 2007 (CEST) Watch Yourselves is certainly an option if you are in a caster heavy team (such as all SFs and monks) or if you only have level 1 Save Yourselves, although anything on top of There is Nothing to Fear and They're on Fire is probably overkill already. 129.55.200.20 20:04, 13 July 2007 (CEST) and deep wound is ftw Skakid9090 20:31, 12 July 2007 (CEST) I'd suggest listing counters for this. Granted, its not something you'll ever go up against, you still need to know your weaknesses, so your party can accomidate for them:
* Adrenaline denial: Soothing images, blindenss, etc.
* Anti-shout skills: Vocal Minorty, Well of Silence
* Life steal: Life stealing, not being damage, will ignores this builds defences entirely. Yamagawa 02:39, 14 July 2007 (CEST) Another possible variant that I have been having a lot of success with is adding in mending refrain. Since you will be maintaining aggressive refrain with they're on fire all the time outside combat anyways, you can also maintain mending refrain on your entire party. I use 16 Leadership and 13 motivation for a +4 mending refrain. Alternatively, you can get 8 motivation for a +3 mending refrain and have some attributes in spear mastery so you won't do 1 damage (not like it is really significant anyways). Finally, you can also have a teammate or hero use mending refrain and you can maintain it too, in which case you can use the same build. 24.147.149.123 17:47, 21 July 2007 (CEST) I find mending refrain incredibly awkward. This build looks easy to use without it. But if you're willing to cope with it I say why not. Leeroythefeared 01:37, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
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