Please take a look at this. I believe it is easier to read and more concise than the current rules section. I would appreciate your comments or edits. Thanks!Glorious CHAOS! 02:45, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| - Please take a look at this. I believe it is easier to read and more concise than the current rules section. I would appreciate your comments or edits. Thanks!Glorious CHAOS! 02:45, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| - @ Nitrous: Your too kind. Did that fix your IRC problem?
@Dan: Try one/both of the ideas in my previous message. If they don't work, message me on my talkpage and I'll see whats up.
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| - I'm pretty sure that it's well-known to most everyone, including the people involved in the chat, that anything posted should be PG rated at most; honestly, given my experience, PG-13 covers some pretty broad ground, including some stuff I would definitely not feel comfortable showing to kids.
I hesitate to ban video links exclusively because most people manage to post videos well within standards. I don't think users who follow the rules should be punished because a couple of others used poor judgment.
For any ops or others who were there, were any actions taken against the users other than booting them?
- I agree with LA. "Business" and "pleasure" must be separated. On the deletion of the current channel, it doesn't make a difference. The wiki will move and no longer be affiliated with that channel, so I guess it doesn't really matter. Remove it from the list and done.
- I am too lazy to read through it again. ._.
- LA linked to it, didn't he ?
- No. Just make #KHWiki and be done with the current channel. No need for two, but we do need some better management.
Influence on Crono's Decision
[19:40:05] The only problem is that #KHWiki is owned by freenode
[19:40:23] Huh? Freenode "owns" channels?
[19:40:26] So Kryten or myself would have to fill out a large form to send in to freenode, wait for them to process it, and finally get it POSSIBLY.
[19:40:28] Yes.
[19:40:36] Oh.
[19:40:38] >.>
[19:40:43] Well, I still say we try for it.
[19:40:48] Ex: If I tried to /register the channel, it would say the channel is already owned by freenode.
[19:40:52] If you do it now, we may get it in time >>
[19:41:06] Also, your idea would mean both wikis share an IRC.
[19:41:10] DoorToNothing no likey :{
[19:41:14] :S
I have seen the light. I'm with Soxra.
- Okay, I've been handling the work regarding the new IRC Channel for the off-Wikia wiki, which looks like it will be for SEIWA. I've acquired several new channels to my account, to be safeguarded in case we decide to use them. However, my plan also concerns this wiki's IRC, possibly its continued existence.
#Create #SEIWA-KHWiki for the new wiki. Kryten and I attempted to create #KHWiki, but that gets into some forms we have to fill out with freenode to claim ownership. If we decide on this, Kryten or I can handle the forms--they prefer for it to be filled out by an administrator of the party wishing to claim the channel.
#Consider forming ##khchat. Freenode has a few namespaces, just like wikis do. However, freenode just has two namespaces of channels: #channelspace and ##channelspace. Channels with just one hash are for official parties and businesses, whereas double-hash channels are for unofficial, lax, and relatively lesser groups. I have looked into the current state of #wikia-kingdomhearts and the way our neighbor wiki handles IRC channels, and have come to the conclusion we could benefit from:
##Forming two IRC channels--one is wiki-based, the other is social-based, but neither are totally restricted.
##Removing #wikia-kingdomhearts and instead using ##khchat for both wikis' social needs. #wikia-kingdomhearts currently is doing NOTHING GOOD to represent a professional wiki that is supposed to be an example of good work--however, that is not what the Wikia wiki will be in two weeks. So this could be blown off and ##khchat can just be forgotten. However, I do like the idea of ridding the channel, since this wiki has shown many instances of bad IRC issues and problems--just check the forums and IRC page's number of OP's. Perhaps it would be better to retain that level of social activity, but move it somewhere where it cannot badly reflect a wiki.
So leave opinions below. Personally, I'm all for using #SEIWA-KHWiki. As for this wiki's IRC, either way is fine. I'm not so much for ##khchat possibly merging the social and professional wikis on a high level, though our communities will possibly stay conjoined.
- He didn't take it down, he moved it to the end of the list.
- From the discussion, it seems that the op was involved, though I'm not sure .
- I do believe the video was posted by an op. As for the other op on the channel, I don't believe they took any action at all.
- The ignore command can only ban a nick. Assuming that I know who you are trying to ignore, you will need to ban all variations of their nick as well. However, I completely am against using the ignore command, since it cuts off conections to other users who may need help, especially from a staffer.
- You guys have pretty much covered everything I had in mind. I agree with Azul and DTN. Nice job, guys!
- He was alerted, but I'm not sure if he did anything about the situation. I don't quite remember the conversation. There was a lot of things being said in succession.
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- Edit conflict: DTN didn't take it down, he just moved it to the end of the list. ^_^
Anyway, I agree, we do need this rule, and it needs to be implemented as soon as possible.
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| - I'm in favor of #SEIWA-KingdomHearts, as long as it has stricter rules. A more lax channel like ##KHChat could be created to satisfy the lesser discussions.
DitchGet rid of the current channel completely.
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| - I say a second channel like ##khchat is a good idea. However, though, since we'll no longer be affiliated with #wikia-kingdomhearts, two channels will most likely be needed: one for the "main" stuff, another for the social.
… Sounds like a pain, setting up user flags, channel flags and the like, but, personally, I feel this is a good idea.
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- Bah, I understand.
The discussion's now made public ; to all who have yet to comment, please take a good look at it first.
- About time.
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| - Is it possible that some of the commands listed in the "common commands" section don't work? I specifcially refer to the ignore command, the only one I've tried only to fail. Perhaps it's just the way I write it, which is "/ignore ________"
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| - I don't really see the value of having a second channel, to be honest. The serious conversations are few and far between anyway, and most of the issues are "Troll! Block him!" or "Should the page be like this or this?" which can easily just be brought up in a query with an admin or mod. #seiwa-kingdomhearts sounds good to me for a name, though.
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| - This is just a five min. log in, but I digress. I used to have the same problem with the IRC. Whenever you log into the IRC and join the KH Wiki channel if the page is still blank do this:
Look at the top of the screen , to the right of that bar you will see the refresh button and the stop button. Check that area again, this time there might be an image of a piece of paper cut in half . Click on that button and refresh the page; you should be able to log in again. Once I clicked on that button, I was able to log into the IRC channel.
If this doesn't work, then don't log into the IRC channel for a few days. After a day or so has passed, attempt to log back in. Finally, if that doesn't work, I can check to see if you were banned .
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| - Please take a look at this. I believe it is easier to read and more concise than the current rules section. I would appreciate your comments or edits. Thanks!Glorious CHAOS! 02:45, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
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