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| - __NOWYSIWYG__ Taking a look around the different relationships' pages, I was thinking of creating Bumi and Kya's respective relationships. Despite they're main characters -as there are a lot of main characters with minor relationships or backwards and vice versa-, I think both of them have shown a great relationship between them, and with other people, for example, Bumi had a great relationship with General Iroh, with his family, like Tenzin, Aang -searching for his father's view of him- Meelo, and even Korra. For Kya, her mother and niece Jinora (with both of them had a stronger connection), Ikki, Pema, Tenzin, and Rohan. Bumi and Kya relationship was also good -both are very close and they seem to go on a "pack" of two- and allies like Iroh or Korra and the airbenders, who admired Bumi for his histories, as well as other enemies (Red Lotus, for Bumi the shark-squid). I think that the page of their relationships will be good.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyawaterbender (wall • contribs) 16:42, October 14, 2015 (UTC) I don't see the point of this. Relationship pages are not meant to be a recollection of adventures and times spend together between character A and character B. They're supposed to provide a deeper insight in the relationship between two people. As such, we don't create relationship pages solely on the argument of "they're main characters, ergo, they should have a relationship page." We create relationship pages, as we do every other page that we have, based on available content. In the case of Kya and Bumi, the relevant available content falls short. "Bumi had a great relationship with General Iroh, with his family, like Tenzin, Aang -searching for his father's view of him- Meelo, and even Korra." All we know about Bumi's relationship with Iroh is Iroh's one quote about him being a great person. That's hardly sufficient. Similarly, we don't know anything about Buli's relationship with his father beyond "I hope I made you proud despite not being an airbender." That's also not enough to create more than maybe two to three sentences about it. His interaction with Meelo and Korra is nearly nonexistant, and the interaction with his siblings can be summarized by saying "they bicker a lot, but still care for each other." We don't need to create an entire page to say that. "For Kya, her mother and niece Jinora (with both of them had a stronger connection) Ikki, Pema, Tenzin, and Rohan." Yes, they were said to have a deeper connectiin, but we were never shown that connection. As such, we have very little to note about that, so that's not worth a separate page. It's already sufficiently noted on their respective pages. The rest is the same as with Bumi. If this post was "too long, didn't read": there is simply not enough informatiin to create a separate page about the deeper connection between characters. It's already sufficiently covered on their respective pages. 15:31, October 12, 2015 (UTC) I think that there're some errors here. I don't think the relevant available content falls short, as for the relatonship with Iroh was that, General Iroh came to respect him greatly, they were partners and had a good relationship. Is better a few, that nothing. With his father, Bumi, in particular, has had to deal with a lot of strain in regards to his Air Nomad roots as he was born a nonbender, which contradicted what his father wished, and admitted to have never felt any sort of connection toward his father's people until he actually gained the ability to airbend. Bumi cared much for his father's view of him, having joined the United Forces to help protect the world as best he could to make Aang proud of him. as well as his slight resentment toward him, so I think it's important, no just three sentences. Meelo had a great respect for his uncle, as he wanted to be like him, a commander. With Korra, she assured that she had missed him during three years, so again "is something, better than nothing". Factual error, as Kya had shown her connection with Jinora in an entire book, and with her mother, Katara has shown to have a loving and caring relationship with her three children. Katara trained her second child and only daughter, Kya in waterbending, who became a master healer in her own right. Following Aang's passing, Kya returned to the Southern Water Tribe to tend to her grieving mother. Katara revealed to Pema that her first two children, Bumi and Kya were rambunctious as children. The relationshipw between the brothers will be extensive, taking part of their past (Bumi and Kya bickering Tenzin, family troubles in the Eastern Air Temple, searching Jinora, teaching the new airbenders, etc.). I think the article would be -more or less- extensive, but that is your opinion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyawaterbender (wall • contribs) 16:42, October 14, 2015 (UTC) Neither of those are errors. I summarized what could be said, but you now proved my point: you can write two sentences about it that's relevant and then you need to start fluff it up with irrelevancies. So that's insufficient. No factual error: yes, Kya and Jinora appeared together in a book, thought that doesn't mean that they had a truly meaningful scene together beyond the one where she consoled Jinora about Tenzin (though it could be said that that's a normal reaction anyone could and would have done and is thus not indicative of a deeper relationship). You can write maybe a paragraph here, which is not really great -which was my point. You also summed up already everything that's available dor Kya and Katara. So you can maybe write a paragraph at best for her "deep relationships". So none of that is factually incorrect, that's all just the truth. As said: relationship page =/= history page. 07:19, October 13, 2015 (UTC) More people can also opine, so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyawaterbender (wall • contribs) 16:42, October 14, 2015 (UTC) There's not nearly enough information that would warrant either of those pages. File:Waterbending emblem.png Water Spout 16:49, October 14, 2015 (UTC) It only will be one page. I think that we have sufficient information, although we no value that information.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyawaterbender (wall • contribs) 16:42, October 14, 2015 (UTC) One combined page would make even less sense. There is no justification creating a joint relationship page for Bumi and Kya, especially since the majority of the relationships you've noted as being significant only exist for one of the two siblings. Bumi does not have a significantly developed relationship with Katara or with Jinora, and Kya does not have a significantly developed relationship with Iroh or Bum-Ju. Even then, there is only surface level information for any of their relationships which could be summarized in less than two sentences- not at all enough to warrant a relationships page. File:Waterbending emblem.png Water Spout 18:21, October 15, 2015 (UTC) It doesn't matter. The problem is you don't have to put Bum-Ju and put two paragraphs por Bumi and Kya, or with another character, no. It will be separated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyawaterbender (wall • contribs) 16:42, October 14, 2015 (UTC) I agree with LL and WS here. There is not enough content and making the combined page would make no sense whatsoever. I understand that they were important in the series (to some more than others), but most of their appearances were only to make comments and to help people find things out or fight others (the fighting could particularly be said for Kya; Bumi made asinine statements). They never really had any kind of development with another character that would warrant a complete page. 04:14, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
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