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If some of the characters can hijack Haruhi's power, why don't they ever just use it to strip her permanently of her powers? She wouldn't be hurt. She would even be aware that she'd lost anything. And you take the universe out from under her heel, as well as the significant risk of her destroying it.

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  • If some of the characters can hijack Haruhi's power, why don't they ever just use it to strip her permanently of her powers? She wouldn't be hurt. She would even be aware that she'd lost anything. And you take the universe out from under her heel, as well as the significant risk of her destroying it.
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  • If some of the characters can hijack Haruhi's power, why don't they ever just use it to strip her permanently of her powers? She wouldn't be hurt. She would even be aware that she'd lost anything. And you take the universe out from under her heel, as well as the significant risk of her destroying it. * * Because Yuki still has the Entity's goal to follow. If Haruhi's ability isn't functioning uncontrollably, Yuki-tachi have no way to study it and complete their nonlinear evolution or whatever it was. * So the Entity has a death wish? Which would (and most likely will) happen when Haruhi becomes bored and kills everything. * The Entity has a goal for which it is willing to risk its life. That's not the same thing as a death wish. Presumably it hopes that once it finishes its evolution, it will then be able to safely depower Haruhi. Or simply be powerful enough to withstand her power, or escape it. * I'm not even sure if the Entity is affected by Haruhi's reality warping at all. Apparently, It's neither related to space, nor to time in a major way. It's so completely unrelated to our world that it cannot influence us at all. (Which is the reason the Interfaces were created, as a bridge). If I recall correctly, when Haruhi was about to destroy the world, the Entity was only concerned about losing its observation target, not about its own death. * That makes no sense. If the IDE can't affect reality, then how did it create the interfaces? Or are you simply saying that it's so alien that it can't relate to us? * The IDE is likely beyond human understanding. * Haruhi's power even once deleted the IDE so yes, the IDE can be affected by Haruhi's power. * One of Itsuki's theories is that Haruhi is dreaming the universe. How badly would you want to wake her up? * Were I in the universe it depicts, I would kill myself rather than be subject to her mad whims. * Some of us believe reality is controlled by a deity far more malevolent than Haruhi, and yet we still live with it. * See, here's the thing about that... as tyrannical as any given depiction of God is, it's at least a minor symbiotic relationship with his followers. Look at the Abrahamic God; his punishments were over the top on the slightest things, he was childish, petulant, violent, and simply cruel at times. Yet he was a provider as well, often to the very people he was stifling. He destroyed their enemies, blessed his favored, gave the Israelites a homeland, and pulled their ass out of the fire sometimes. No matter how lop-sided it was, it could still be called symbiotic. With Haruhi... what does anyone gain? Seriously, what? It's clear she doesn't value the people around her, except for Kyon. Everyone with an emotion is miserable and abused and looks like they would pack up and leave if they weren't in constant fear of oblivion. What does she give? Nothing. It's the equivalent of having a sociopath point an anti-matter gun at your temple and say, "Dance with me forever or your family will never know existence!" I guess what I'm saying is; what's the benefits package for the Haruhi-verse? * How could you be sure that death would place you outside her control? If she is God and created the universe, then she also created the afterlife. * Assuming afterlife exists. * If you believe there is no afterlife, then you believe that death = final oblivion. If so, then why deliberately seek it out? Life in a universe with the statistical possibility that you might get messed with by an unaware-of-her-power goddess may not be ideal, but surely its still better than total and permanent nonexistence. * Speak for yourself. * Actually nonexistence would be much better than torture. (Afterlife is still life only after death.) Still, Haruhi's universe may be a little bit better than ours. (If ours is the case of no deity at all.) * It seems to me that you are missing the big picture here. Even tough she does have some serious Jerkass behavior and calling her a sociopath initially is not far from true, most of her actions turn ot to have an ultimately possitive influence in the world. Asahina is coming closer to be the strong, independent and confident self that we know she'll become. Nagato is speeding towards full autonomy (That it's said may be de key to the non-linear evolution that was the whole point of her mission and very existence) Even Kyon, the number one fan of the "Haruhi's power is just trouble" idea finds himself utterly horrified of a world where she is just a normal human. Even further, the computer club president states that Nagato has greatly improved their club, fixing any problem they may have and programing a full OS from scratch that leaves any major company OS far behind, this is the result of them seeing her computer prowess in the Day of Sagitarius competition, wich in turn is a direct result of Haruhi blackmailing a computer out of the club (One of her major Kick the Dog moments). Thanks to her The school has a competent student council and even Taniguch gets in a brief relationship with a gorgeous girl from a private school and Kunikida gets to be close with his crush,she has also used her powers to unconciously protect the members of the club, even getting them out of seemingly unsurmountable odds (What she pulled in the Eleventh novel was simply superb). All of this is the result of her reality manipulation powers, and all anybody has to do in exchange is humour the antics of a teenager that have so far failed to do any serious damage to anybody. So to recapitulate, Symbiotic relationship? Check. Provide for her people? Check. ¿Crush their enemies? Check. Bless those with her favor? Check. Pull their asses from the fire? Check. What else can you ask from a teenage deity? * Another theory is that she controls all local probability, so no one stops her because she won't even let them try. * When Yuki remade the world Kyon's retained all of his memories and was ultimately able to undo what she did, and the Anti-SOS Brigade claims they need Kyon's assent to return Sasaki's powers to her. That's probably not a coincidence and Kyon has stated he has no intention of letting any one else have those powers. * I've always been under the impression that the only reason people can affect her powers is because she subconsciously lets them to see what would happen. If they tried for a permanent cutoff, she simply wouldn't allow it. * Fridge Brilliance: perhaps the reason that Nagato, and not any other interface, is able to tap into Haruhi's power is that Nagato develops emotions.
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