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| - Okay, this has been overdue for awhile now. I've been waiting for some of the previous discussion to be resolved before I started this, and now that they have been, we can get down to business. With the revelations and events that occurred in the recent chapters, Zangetsu (spirit) and Hollow Ichigo. I've heard names for both, and now I think it's time we rename it. NOTE: Only Administrators and Committee members are allowed to vote on this. If you vote, but are not an Administrator or a Committee member, your vote will be ignored and deleted. Arrancar109 (Talk) 06:32, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
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| - Okay, this has been overdue for awhile now. I've been waiting for some of the previous discussion to be resolved before I started this, and now that they have been, we can get down to business. With the revelations and events that occurred in the recent chapters, Zangetsu (spirit) and Hollow Ichigo. I've heard names for both, and now I think it's time we rename it.
* Old Man Zangetsu: Zangetsu (Quincy spirit), Zangetsu (Old Man), Old Man, Zangetsu (Quincy powers)
* True Zangetsu: Zangetsu (Zanpakuto spirit), Zangetsu (Hollow spirit), Zangetsu (Zanpakuto & Hollow spirit), Zangetsu (spirit), Zangetsu (Shinigami & Hollow powers) I would have previously suggested calling the old man "Zangetsu (false)", but I'm thinking that since Ichigo considers them both Zangetsu, I'm withdrawing that name nomination. Additionally, we will NOT be entertaining any thoughts of merging the two pages with anything, as it will serve no purpose other than to create a ridiculous amount of bulk for one article. So, Administrators and Committee members, please pick your choice and vote. NOTE: Only Administrators and Committee members are allowed to vote on this. If you vote, but are not an Administrator or a Committee member, your vote will be ignored and deleted. Arrancar109 (Talk) 06:32, July 7, 2013 (UTC) I'll start off. For Old Man Zangetsu, I'm thinking "Zangetsu (Quincy spirit)", and the Hollow, "Zangetsu (Zanpakuto spirit)". Arrancar109 (Talk) 06:33, July 7, 2013 (UTC) Im for simply Hollow Ichigo named Zangetsu (Zanpakuto Spirit) as he rightly should be and for the Quincy Powers to be named Zangetsu (Old Man), because he isnt really zangetsu except to ichigo, he himself stated he wasnt and the only official name for him in the series is old man per what ichigo calls him since day one.-- Since both are implied to be his Zanpakutō spirits[1], I think that using "Zanpakutō" as a descriptor would be inaccurate. With that in mind, I vote for "Zangetsu (Quincy powers)" and "Zangetsu (Shinigami & Hollow powers)" since they generalize a bit more. Mohrpheus (Talk) 06:46, July 7, 2013 (UTC) I think naming Zangetsu (spirit) as Zangetsu (Quincy spirit) and Hollow Ichigo as Zangetsu (Zanpakutō spirit) would be the most accurate and provide a clear contrast between the two scratch that, Mohrp's idea makes more sense..--Xilinoc (talk) 14:57, July 7, 2013 (UTC) I like both suggestions as they are both relevant as both have taken on the persona of Zangetsu and the Old man has not given us any other relevant name to give him!! His real name could be George for all anyone cares, it has not been given to us and for the time being, most fans attribute the Quincy representation as Zangetsu!! So many only watch the anime so yes dividing them up but keeping the relevant name is fine by me!! Personally will be glad that he won't be listed in an article like the other awful Zanpakutō spirits!! Agreed.-- 16:56, July 7, 2013 (UTC) I can't think of anything better. For Hollow Ichigo I prefer Zangetsu (Zanpakutō Spirit) and for the 'old' man, Zangetsu (Quincy Spirit), but I would not be opposed to the "Quincy/Shinigami & Hollow powers" idea either. 15:40, July 8, 2013 (UTC) Both suggestions, as Sunxia pointed out, do a fairly accurate job of describing things. As Sunxia pointed out, we do have to keep in mind how there are a fair number of fans who follow only the anime. I agree with how many attribute Zangetsu to be the Quincy representation. In any case, I think that Zangetsu (Quincy spirit) would be appropriate for "Old Man Zangetsu." For "Hollow Ichigo", either Zangetsu (Zanpakuto & Hollow spirit) or Zangetsu (Shinigami & Hollow powers) could work since it has been said that Ichigo's Shinigami powers are very much his Hollow powers. ---Mr. N (Discuss) 02:04, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
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