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So, in the process of wiki-browsing, I've noticed that many articles contain a lot of information that isn't exactly verifiable or even proven. The information is sometimes included with phrases like 'it is believed that,' or 'one theory is' or 'some players think', but a lot of these speculative phrases are more-or-less passed on as fact. Examples exist on many Sim pages, especially those with complex family webs, memories or other things. So, what I'm wondering is, since this is a wiki and wikis are meant to provide accurate information, what is the feeling about speculative statements? Do we want to include them with a disclaimer, or just not include them at all? -- LostInRiverview talk · blog 21:32, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

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  • So, in the process of wiki-browsing, I've noticed that many articles contain a lot of information that isn't exactly verifiable or even proven. The information is sometimes included with phrases like 'it is believed that,' or 'one theory is' or 'some players think', but a lot of these speculative phrases are more-or-less passed on as fact. Examples exist on many Sim pages, especially those with complex family webs, memories or other things. So, what I'm wondering is, since this is a wiki and wikis are meant to provide accurate information, what is the feeling about speculative statements? Do we want to include them with a disclaimer, or just not include them at all? -- LostInRiverview talk · blog 21:32, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
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  • So, in the process of wiki-browsing, I've noticed that many articles contain a lot of information that isn't exactly verifiable or even proven. The information is sometimes included with phrases like 'it is believed that,' or 'one theory is' or 'some players think', but a lot of these speculative phrases are more-or-less passed on as fact. Examples exist on many Sim pages, especially those with complex family webs, memories or other things. So, what I'm wondering is, since this is a wiki and wikis are meant to provide accurate information, what is the feeling about speculative statements? Do we want to include them with a disclaimer, or just not include them at all? -- LostInRiverview talk · blog 21:32, December 31, 2011 (UTC) I'm not really sure of this, but in the case for some Sims, memories are what makes the speculations. Speculation of some Sims exists because the bios, memories, skills, relationships, etc. implicitly describe that specific Sim, which leads to theories. We can't really prove existing theories or speculations such as Bella's disappearance. As for some articles, that works different. It needs source unless it's already proven in-game. Nikel Talk 11:35, January 1, 2012 (UTC) I agree with Nikel. In case of townies, where we have no evidence of anything really since they don't have any biographies, memories and family ties, speculation should be automatically removed. In the case of pre-made Sims, I would say putting some of the player's theories would be OK, but we can't push it too far. --RoseGuiFile:Thanks rose.png (talk here) 13:27, January 1, 2012 (UTC) The speculations will exist whether we mention them or not, and that they exist is itself information. Sometimes, speculation persists despite evidence to the contrary, and when it does, that should be pointed out. Sometimes, the information we're given about a Sim is incomplete or ambiguous, either intentionally or through oversight. That encourages speculation, which I see as a good thing. However, many players seem to assume that their speculations and beliefs are much more definite than they are. To say that, while many players believe "X", "X" is speculative is a useful thing, but it requires mentioning "X". Dharden (talk) 14:52, January 1, 2012 (UTC) Maybe I can state something similar with speculations. The other speculation is, which is more nonsensical, about Sims who are assumed to be based on real world people. There's been many cases of this, but the 2 I still remember is Lil Bling who was said to be based on Justin Bieber and Tom Wordy who was said to be based on both 50 Cent and Usher (lolwut?). Is this supposed to remain on page or deleted? Nikel Talk 07:04, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
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