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| - Whew... First community post in a long time... 9 months? Pressure, pressure. Anyway, I want to discuss the possibility of creating specific groups that have an orientation for their edits; for example, if there was to be a group called the "Referencing Mafia" or something, the members of that Mafia would work to reference the various articles. I'll need to talk about that in the discussion page for adding it on to the To Do List as well. Also, in the Mafia, there would be a Mafia Boss and a Right-Hand man to supervise the Mafia and make sure everything is going smoothly. If there are a lot of users in one Mafia, we could even create a "Boss and Guardians" theme in the Mafia, as well as the Flames, which would be pretty cool... But anyways, the main purpose of, say, the "Referencing Mafia"'s members would be to reference. The Mafia would be headed by a Mafia Boss, assisted by his right hand man/woman, and Guardians if there are a lot of members. We could have a "mission board" of sorts, where members could request the Mafia Boss to add a mission to the board, where any member could do the job. Maybe we could add a reward for completing the job, provided it's checked over by the Mafia Boss, of course, and then the person who has to most missions completed/most amount of reward money (points?) collected could be given the... "Referencing Guild" Mafia member of the month award? A promotion? Maybe even a temporary one? I think, that with my above idea, we could clearly separate the users of the wikia into certain jobs, getting certain areas that are lacking done quicker. OK, so to recap, in a Mafia, there is a:
* Mafia Boss
* Right hand man/woman The mafia's purpose is to complete missions of certain areas, such as referencing, uploading high quality pictures, or manga summaries. The member who completes the most jobs or collects the most points for the mission in the month will receive the "[insert mafia name here]" Mafia member of the month award/a promotion/a temporary promotion. So, as I stated earlier, with these groups, we could get certain lacking areas of the wikia filled up quickly, so the problems of the wikia or things on the To Do List would be solved more quickly then users just floating around doing whatever they want. Let me know what you think. 14:48, September 10, 2011 (UTC) So...I kind of like the idea and kind of don't. One: we don't have THAT many people/regulars. okay a few but not enough for a group in my opinion. Two: I believe the boss should already be an admin for we are the ones w/ the most power minus bureaucrats (which only two are). Three: Won't this be confusing? Having an admin sky boss then adding another Sky boss to the wikia, with hardly any "rights." Maybe just that people will go to the wrong person for certain tasks. Fourth: The idea of "points" and thinks wouldn't be fair. Certain jobs takes MORE work then others. like uploading pics/manga scans, is easier way of getting points then actually ADDING in summaries. Get what I'm saying? pics are easier to upload therefore more points be rewarded to that person. Actually this could go for any area. Fifth: honestly, we have enough groups, with our rollback subs & second admins. I thought that was the point of admins & rollbackers. I'm not saying everyone is doing a poor job, i have too since i went on hiatus for a long time (though at least checked the wikia every day); however, going back to one, we just don't have enough active members in my opinion that ACTUALLY stay here for a while. As you can see, even some of our admins are inactive for a long time, or not here often. I'm not saying this is a bad idea just that there needs to be a lot of thought and organization to be put into this idea. I also think that if we do get people, eventually new things wear out thus soon people will drop it. This is just my opinion now. Free Floating at Will - Cloud ♠ Chrome9669 02:13, September 12, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, I understand... So, in response to your arguments... One: Yeah, that could be a problem. Anyway, this is just an idea to be considered, maybe to be taken into effect when we get more users, if we ever do? Two: Yes, definitely an admin. Three: However, it doesn't necessarily have to have a Flame; we could just put it as "Mafia Boss". We could also additionally state in the article that those Mafia Bosses, if not admins or soon-to-be admins that are ordinary contributors/rollbacks, shouldn't be contacted for questions, then listing a link to the list of admins. Four: I don't mean that each mission gets the same amount of points; harder jobs get more points, while easier jobs get less. Of course, ridiculously easy jobs shouldn't be listed on the mission board and should just be eliminated quietly, with no reward...? Maybe. Five: Yeah, that seems to be the strongest discouraging factor in creating these groups. However, we could make these groups somewhat discreet, such as stating in community messages that "we have several groups specifically orientated to tackle certain lacking areas of the wiki", and we could put it as a message in the "community" tab thing above every article. Responding to your last point, I do agree that new aspects wear out after a while... I think the only reason adminship and rollback status is so popular is because it grants you more power; whether we like to admit it or not, we are power-hungry, so this idea that doesn't really give people more power will turn away less motivated contributors, which are only motivated by getting positions of power, not actually helping the wiki, which is what these groups are for. All in all, I agree with point 1, 2, partially 3, and 5, which is, lol, 70% of your opinions. Anyway, if someone could think of a better idea then I've thought of now that can suit our limited contributor thing as well as the motivation aspect, we could make this idea successful. Otherwise, I think that my idea, whose negative points were sharply pointed out by Chrome9669, should only stay as an idea. Although, if someone could think of something that could counter all of Chrome's negative aspects, please suggest it. Thanks... 09:19, September 12, 2011 (UTC) There is one thing I could suggest...Although I really hate the very idea of it, I could activate "Badges" for this site. I had it disabled to start with, cause I absolutely despise it, but if it's me against everyone, I'll activate it again. If your not sure what I'm talking about, please see this. ..AlienGamer (Userpage ⁝ Talk) 09:25, September 12, 2011 (UTC) Hey, I was just being honest. When you have an idea, it's best to point out the negatives so you do know what to fix about it. Normally, i hate negatives but this called for negative responses; otherwise, it wouldn't be an idea. @AG yeah...i really don't like the badges idea. After you described the issues/problems that could happen, I'm not looking forward to activate if not necessary. Free Floating at Will - Cloud ♠ Chrome9669 10:44, September 12, 2011 (UTC) @Chrome Ah, don't take it the wrong way, I wasn't resentful about your comments, I actually appreciated them. I mean, the only reason someone submits an idea is because they think it's good, and you pointing out the bad aspects was really an eye-opener to me, so thank you for that. @AlienGamer Yeah, I agree with Chrome... I haven't read that issues/problems thing, but I think that it would be pointless, and it has a flaw as well; if it has an overall edit, someone could only edit on talk pages and get a bunch of badges. Plus, it encourages editing for achievements, not actually helping the wiki; we need contributors that help the wiki because they want to make the site better. 11:01, September 12, 2011 (UTC) Ah...i'm sorry then. I thought you were a little mad at me for pointing out negatives. >.< Anyway, I honestly don't see us getting extremely popular until the anime comes back. When the anime was going on, MAJOR activity from almost all the second gen admins. actually over half? (I know AG, Ridiculous, & I came near the same time as well as xSawadax being here...and all four-three of us helped and took this wikia far). That's just my opinion for more activity here~ Oh the problems/issues were mainly worrying on pointless edits (something grammatical/punctuation being slightly off) and yea...i never really thought of talk pages counting...hmmm, interesting. Free Floating at Will - Cloud ♠ Chrome9669 22:28, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
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