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Completely unsourced. Could not find any reliable sources (per WP:RS standards) for this at all, let alone multiple notable reliable sources giving nontrivial coverage, which is required before a topic can have its own Wikipedia article. Previous AFD in 2008 had only three participants and the two keep !votes were based upon assuming there must be sources without actually trying to provide any. DreamGuy (talk) 20:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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  • Completely unsourced. Could not find any reliable sources (per WP:RS standards) for this at all, let alone multiple notable reliable sources giving nontrivial coverage, which is required before a topic can have its own Wikipedia article. Previous AFD in 2008 had only three participants and the two keep !votes were based upon assuming there must be sources without actually trying to provide any. DreamGuy (talk) 20:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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  • Completely unsourced. Could not find any reliable sources (per WP:RS standards) for this at all, let alone multiple notable reliable sources giving nontrivial coverage, which is required before a topic can have its own Wikipedia article. Previous AFD in 2008 had only three participants and the two keep !votes were based upon assuming there must be sources without actually trying to provide any. DreamGuy (talk) 20:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 16 June 2012 (UTC) * Keep - You wrote that you , but I can't tell how hard you looked. I found plenty of sources by looking at the above Google books and Google scholar links. Here's a few to start you off: * Kelly,Stacia. Muse: breathe. focus. achieve. p. 44. ISBN 9780557129942. . "Preditors and Editors is also useful in finding out info about Agents and Editors." * Liu,Cynthea. Writing for Children and Teens: A Crash Course (How to Write, Revise, and Publish a Kid's Or Teen Book with Children's Book Publishers). pp. 53-4. ISBN 9781605301143. . "Check Preditors and Editors." * Lavene,Joyce. The Everything Guide to Writing a Novel: From Completing the First Draft to Landing a Book Contract--All You Need to Fulfill Your Dreams. p. 224. ISBN 9781593371326. . "Before accepting a professional editor's help with your manuscript, check them out. Preditors and Editors is good online resource for keeping tabs on scams and dishonest editors and agents." * Watson,Irene. Authors Access: 30 Success Secrets for Authors and Publishers. p. 84. ISBN 9781932690989. . "Either way, be sure to check with "Preditors and Editors," a site which lists the sharks: the people out to fleece writers." * Ephron,Hallie. The Everything Guide to Writing Your First Novel. p. 249. ISBN 9781440509575. . "The Preditors and Editors website evaluates writing contests based on a set of criteria and feedback from their users." Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 03:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC) * Delete per WP:WEB. The examples given above strongly appear to be trivial coverage, and not the subject of any article or book. If the only sourcable fact is "Preditors and Editors is a website listing naughty editors", then that's not enough. The resulting article would be one sentence long. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:12, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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