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| - I've noticed this for quite some time, and I was thinking: how long after someone uploads an image should we give them time to do something with it before deleting it? Or should we just continue to allow every image (barring pornographic ones) to stay on file? Some people upload images for their user pages (I assume) and they never get used, but a lot of recent additions have been poor quality images that have been added to an article (and subsequently removed), but the image file stays on hand. I noticed a while back that some users were reprimanding others for uploading duplicate files, but with how many images we have uploaded (especially ones with non-descriptive names), it's not surprising that similar or identical images get uploaded all the time. I figured it's probably our job to be deleting unused image files, so duplicates aren't constantly being added, and it'd be a good way to demonstrate to users that we won't tolerate poor images being constantly added. (By poor, I mean ones with low image quality, with subtitles, with mouse arrows in them, with black bars that should have been cropped out, etc. as well as ones that violate our rules, such as fan-colored images that are added to articles and the like.) It's just been something I've been pondering for a while, and I wondered what you guys thought. Twocents 21:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC) There is a large amount of unused pictures on the site. In the case of poor quality images that are removed from pages but left alone, I think we should list them for deletion when removing them from the pages and if nobody expresses support for them, delete them after a few days. I did add it to the manual of style that pictures should be given names descriptive of their content. Something I was thinking of adding to the user page policy was that users should mark for deletion any picture that they uploaded for their profile if they are no longer using it. Problem is that most of them won't remember to do this (or may never even notice that in the manual). --Yyp 15:57, November 18, 2009 (UTC) That makes sense. It'll give people time to find alternate uses for the images - such as if they want to put them on their user page instead - and it'll cut down on unused, poor quality, and/or duplicate images. I think we can add that second part to the User Page Policy, and while we don't have much control over whether users actually remember to do that or not, it may help. Twocents 19:53, November 19, 2009 (UTC) Okay, I went through all the images uploaded in the month of November. (Well, not all of them. I generally assumed that we were capable of uploading useful images.) It's surprising how many duplicate files, unused images and images with useless file names were uploaded. I deleted all the duplicates (and one in clear violation of our rules) and marked all the unused ones for deletion. We can wait a few days to give people enough time to find a use for them or argue for why they should be kept. I didn't know what to do with the ones with poor file names, but I'm wondering if we should move them to ones that are more descriptive; that way, those that are considering uploading similar images will at least be able to search and see if it already exists. Twocents 03:19, November 20, 2009 (UTC) I've moved a few of the poorly named ones to descriptive names. I didn't touch the ones that were already listed for deletion, as there is little point unless it is decided to keep any of them. --Yyp 14:42, November 20, 2009 (UTC) Added that bit about users marking old profile pictures for deletion to user page policy. --Yyp 18:42, November 20, 2009 (UTC) I have gone through October's uploads, so every unused pic back to the 30 September is marked for deletion. If nobody has done anything with them, I'll start deleting them at the end of the month. --Yyp 14:54, November 24, 2009 (UTC) I've gotten back to the start of August now. I'm not going any further for now (there's a total of 240 files marked for deletion atm). On Monday or Tuesday I'll start to delete those that are still unused. --Yyp 14:24, November 26, 2009 (UTC) I'll make a start on them tomorrow morning. There are now 260 of them. --Yyp 10:28, November 30, 2009 (UTC) Also if the pics are quality you can protect them from being duplicated read the admin section or protection under help i think there is something there on protecting the name of a pic so duplicates arent made. Salubri 23:30, December 2, 2009 (UTC) How long do we want to give someone to do something with the picture they've uploaded? I've been marking them with the delete tag if they're not used within an hour or two after being uploaded, but I wasn't sure as far as deleting them. Give them like three days or...? Twocents 19:13, December 4, 2009 (UTC) Well that just brings up the issue of timing. Twocents you have it right in my opinion to give them an hour or two otherwise its liable to stay there with no purpose. Id say give it a day and the delete it. On another note the warning policy seems kind of overly friendly. Now i know the general outlook is that we want people to contribute to the wiki. But besides accidents that can happen warning someone up to three times seems kind of ridiculous, seeing why should you have to tell someone there doing the wrong thing that many times. There are policies on the site for a reason, they get a link to it when they first sign on and old users should have been on long enough to know better. We want to be fair but in the real world you dont get to drive through red lights because you werent aware of the rules you still get a ticket. Just something to think about is all im saying. Salubri 19:36, December 4, 2009 (UTC) Okay. I was thinking the same thing, since if I was going to upload an image, I'd turn around and use it right away. So I figure if someone's not doing that, then they probably have no intention to use it. I can understand being a bit generous if it's a new-ish policy or if it's a genuine mistake, but I agree. I think that people are linked to all our policies when they join and older users have been told about the policies through the news and they could find the policies themselves by checking out the redesigned sidebar. I think we should operate on the assumption that they know, or should know, the policies. As in your example, you wouldn't get out of a ticket if you told the cop that you didn't know there was a law against driving through red lights. Twocents 01:34, December 5, 2009 (UTC) Do we want to modify the blocking policy, then, to set something up for the second policy violation? Should it say at the top of the page (or wherever) that it's assumed that people are familiar with our policies? Twocents 02:01, December 6, 2009 (UTC) Well something should be said because baseball three strikes your out rule doesn't make sense. We aren't 5 year olds here we all are young adults, adults and we shouldnt have to talk to people like there little kids. Salubri 07:54, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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