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| - 1) Inappropriate banner add for a 3rd party website. 2) Makes it appear as a member site of the Wikipedia projects, same style and look. An example of what it looks like is here, bottom of page. --Stbalbach 6 July 2005 05:53 (UTC)
* Delete. Stbalbach 6 July 2005 05:53 (UTC)
* Delete - Ta bu shi da yu 6 July 2005 06:18 (UTC)
* Weak Keep only if it's changed to wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha format and used in the External Links section as User:Elvis suggested below. Keep I created the Uncyclopedia template so people who want to make funny, sarcastic, and even biased comments can put up their thoughts at the Uncyclopedia site, instead of filling up the talk page. I found this article, "Uncyclopedia joins Wikia", saying that it is a first-party site hosted by Wikicities (it used to be 3rd-party hosted). If it is not a 1st party site, I will certainly change my vote to Delete, as I don't want to support outside sites. Read more about the Uncyclopedia here. Hopefully, this template will promote actual wikipedia:satirical humor, instead of just the stupid stuff that's on most of the pages. -Hyad July 6, 2005 06:51 (UTC)
* Wikicities sites are 3rd party, it's just a hosting service and doesn't control content. Stbalbach 6 July 2005 13:29 (UTC)
* OK, Stbalbach. I updated my vote. I know I said I would change it to Delete, but making it the like the wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha seems to be the best compromise. I realise now that the Uncyclopedia is a 3rd party site like wikipedia:Memory Alpha, but it is still very popular, so I think it should have its own template. Maybe in the future, the creators could relinquish their copyright and it could become a 1st party site like wikipedia:Wiktionary. -Hyad July 6, 2005 21:21 (UTC)
* Delete. We are a serious encyclopedia. I feel that in almost all cases it is a bad idea to put this kind of satiric humor in the article name space. Dragons flight July 6, 2005 07:07 (UTC)
* Keep for use on talk pages only --Henrygb 6 July 2005 09:41 (UTC)
* Delete, not a sister project. Radiant_>|< July 6, 2005 09:53 (UTC)
* Delete. Fredrik | talk 6 July 2005 10:19 (UTC)
* Delete per Dragons flight --MarSch 6 July 2005 10:56 (UTC)
* Weak keep for use on talk pages and user pages. Uncyclopedia is not a sibling project, but since it's one of the more popular parody sites with a community that overlaps with Wikipedia to some extent, keeping the template doesn't do much harm. --Euniana/Talk/Blog 6 July 2005 13:09 (UTC)
* Keep just for the lolz Tom k&e 6 July 2005 13:16 (UTC)
* Your voteing on the use of banner adds, not if it should be linked or not. It can still be linked in external links like all other external sites. Why does this site deserve special treatment and stand apart from all other 3rd party websites? Stbalbach 6 July 2005 16:44 (UTC)
* Keep but rewrite. Uncyclopedia is not Wikipedia (by design, its mandate is different) but there are a couple of cases where a link to uncyclopedia.wikia.com or even comedy.wikicities.com may be completely appropriate: 1.
* A template to indicate an article which should be moved to Uncyclopedia, to BJAODN or to another humour site as it doesn't fit in with the main Wikipedia, much like {{dictdef}} indicates something would belong more in wikipedia:Wiktionary. A BJAODN template was deleted by consensus recently. See the log. Dragons flight July 6, 2005 15:17 (UTC) 2.
* A link from pages in main article space which are in some legitimate way humour-related, such as You have two cows, wikipedia:List of backronyms or wikipedia:BJAODN, to the corresponding pages on the other wiki --carlb 6 July 2005 14:39 (UTC)
* Keep but rewrite into wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha form as per it's TFD becaue of (2) above. --ElvisFromUncyc 6 July 2005 14:50 (UTC)
* It may be desirable to rewrite the template to indicate *which* page at Uncyclopedia: is the link target? As written, it appears to assume both pages will have the same name, an issue if using this on user pages. --66.102.74.170 6 July 2005 15:07 (UTC)
* It should be noted that I mentoined nothing about only using on talk pages, I don't have a major problem using it on the main article page (where appropriate), the satirical portrail of a subject can I think cast light on the the way people view the subject, etc. therefore I think some of the Uncyclopedia articles can be usefully referenced. I would consider changeing the template to say "A Spoof article on XXXXXX is available here" however.--ElvisFromUncyc 6 July 2005 15:44 (UTC)
* Please tell us your thoughts why it must be a banner add and not in the external links like every other 3rd party website. Why is this site special and set apart and given special treatment? Stbalbach 6 July 2005 16:44 (UTC)
* Er I'm not, I am saying use it in the links like every other 3rd party website, as per the usage of wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha--ElvisFromUncyc 7 July 2005 09:45 (UTC)
* Comment. I am concerned that some of the people voting keep may not have an appreciation for how Uncyclopedia works. The point of the template in its current form is to link Wikipedia page X to Uncyclopedia page X where the Uncyclopedia version is intended as a humourous rendering of the topic. Consider some examples: Oscar Wilde, Darth Vader, laser, France. While enjoyable, I don't see making article space links to any of these as being appropriate. The Uncyclopedia doesn't really have the equivalent of humor pages to link to, since all pages are humor, so there doesn't seem to be any way to use the current template only on wikipedia:BJAODN or other wikipedia humor pages. Also, since Uncyclopedia intends to cover all encyclopedic topics some day, even placing it only on Talk pages would quickly get to be abusive as it would be everywhere. I'm not opposed to linking to Uncyclopedia in appropriate places, but the function intended by this templates seems inappropriate to me. If people can figure out how to rewrite this to make it useful, then by all means show us. Dragons flight July 6, 2005 15:17 (UTC)
* Comment. Keep in mind what you are voteing for: the use of banner adds for a 3rd party web site. The article can still be referenced in the external links section. Please justify your keeps of using a banner add and making it stand apart and special from all other external links. Stbalbach 6 July 2005 16:44 (UTC)
* I don't see how this is a "banner ad" (if by "add" (sic) you mean "ad" like the animated .GIFs on commercial websites) --carlb 6 July 2005 17:36 (UTC)
* I think it's pretty clear what a banner ad is. The only sites that get this special treatment are Wikipedia sister projects, not 3rd party external links. Stbalbach 6 July 2005 18:56 (UTC)
* Delete. The template gives a misleading idea of Uncyclopedia's relationship to Wikipedia. If someone wants to link an article to the article's parody on Uncyclopedia, then add it in the External links section of the article.--Alabamaboy 6 July 2005 18:03 (UTC)
* Delete. Not a sister project, and even if it were, I don't think it's appropriate for articles; link these from External links instead. A template used in this manner wouldn't be such a bad idea, maybe something like this: "A wikipedia:spoof of this article on Foo can be found in the Uncyclopedia, an encyclopedia parody site." AиDя01DTALKEMAIL July 6, 2005 19:20 (UTC)
* Keep and make the template clearer that it's a parady and an external link (no right float or border?). "Many a true word said in jest" -- we're not bound to use it if the link isn't funny. Ojw 6 July 2005 20:17 (UTC)
* Whats your rational for giving this external site its own banner, when others dont get one? Do you favour this external site over others? Stbalbach 6 July 2005 20:51 (UTC)
* Must you ask this question of everyone who disagrees with your vote? I already read your comments chastising 4 other people for their votes. This is not a "banner ad" (300x75 pixel flashing red banner at the top of an article) but a link which I already said should look more like an 'external link' and using the template to more easily keep track of such links, and change their format/wording when appropriate. In short, telling everyone "you're voting for banner ads" in response to any 'keep' vote is not helpful Ojw 20:39, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
* Delete - Uncyclopedia should never be linked from any article here on Wikipedia, except Uncyclopedia of course. It is not an encyclopedic source in remotely any way, so not even a revised version of this belongs. Uncyclopedia is a funny site, but that's all. -- Netoholic @ 6 July 2005 20:22 (UTC)
* Delete. Not a sister project (Wikicities is part of a for-profit venture and unrelated to Wikimedia) so it shouldn't have a sister project box; does not contain encyclopedic information, so it shouldn't appear in external link sections except in its own article. —Cryptic (talk) 6 July 2005 20:31 (UTC)
* Extreme delete. See about Unencyclopedia: "Uncyclopedia is an encyclopedia full of misinformation and utter lies." wikipedia:Iff kept, it should be rewritten (wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha-style with no boxes and making it VERY clear that it is parody wiki!), and ONLY used on Talk and User pages. BlankVerse ∅ 6 July 2005 20:39 (UTC)
* Speedy delete as advertising. --Carnildo 6 July 2005 23:58 (UTC) Contrary to popular misconceptions, advertising has never been a criteria for speedy deletion. Dragons flight July 7, 2005 00:07 (UTC) It is. CSD includes "vandalism", which includes "Adding inappropriate external links for self-promotion." I wouldn't call this vandalism, though ;-) - Fredrik | talk 7 July 2005 00:11 (UTC) Curiously, wikipedia:WP:CSD lists "pure vandalism" (which I would say this is not). Vandalism lists spam as a form of vandalism. Spam then tells you that advertising should be taken to VFD. Dragons flight July 7, 2005 00:22 (UTC)
* Delete. Uncyclopedia's goals are irreconcilable with Wikipedia's, as admirable as they may be; there is no conceivable case in which a link to an Uncyclopedia article could provide background information—background noise at best. In fact, if by some mistake an Uncyclopedia article did provide useful information, this would probably be fixed quickly. Even putting a link on the talk page shouldn't be done. This is even ignoring the (fixable) formatting issue that misleadingly suggests Uncyclopedia is a sister project, which it isn't. JRM • Talk 7 July 2005 00:09 (UTC)
* Delete. Advertising, inaccurate, inappropriate. --tomf688(talk) July 7, 2005 00:55 (UTC)
* Delete Not a sister project. If users want to use it, they should userfy a version of it, otherwise they can use an ext link. Also, Wiki is not an advertising agency, and this template does nothing to enhance the encylopedic value of Wikipedia articles. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 07:49 (UTC)
* Delete. Yes, the parodies on Uncyclopedia are often hilarious, but linking to them from the main article space is a perfectly dreadful idea; and as others have said, it's not a sister project. Antandrus (talk) 7 July 2005 16:50 (UTC)
* Delete. As per Antandrus. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 7 July 2005 17:00 (UTC)
* Delete. Advertising for another wiki is still advertising. - SimonP July 7, 2005 17:17 (UTC)
* Delete. --Sn0wflake 7 July 2005 18:09 (UTC)
* Delete, do not change to plaintext version. We should only ever link to an external site when it provides more information on a topic, or demonstrates the topic. Uncyclopedia does not provide information about anything. Joe D (t) 7 July 2005 18:30 (UTC)
* Delete - most of the articles about subjects in Uncyclopedia have either nothing to do with the ones at Wikipedia, or they contain content which may anger supporters of a particular subject. I suggest this be deleted for the sake of Uncyclopedia. If one must add a link to it, they can add it to the External links sections, making sure they state it is a parody. As others said, linking to it isn't a good idea either. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) July 8, 2005 00:41 (UTC) --updated July 8, 2005 06:55 (UTC)
* Extremely delete. While sometimes the site is funny, there's no reason to give it any kind of special place here, and it there is not going to be any real information there. Eric119 8 July 2005 05:25 (UTC)
* Comment I have to disagree with many of the contributors that say that spoofs, humour or satire have no connection to any particular subject and examples should ‘’’Never’’’ be referenced in a Serious article on a subject. The definition of wiktionary:satire is that it is often used to provoke or prevent change, numerous examples of this include much of work of wikipedia:Mark Thomas and wikipedia:Chris Morris to take to UK examples (I'm sure other countries have similar examples although none spring instantly to mind). I agree that many articles on Uncyclopedia do not and will never have any use in an serious encyclopaedia, however there are some which I think could be useful linked to, off the top of my head (and not necessarily a good example) Making up Oscar Wilde quotes is certainly a form of commentary about the phenomenon of numerous "witty" quotes being misattributed to Oscar, an example from wikipedia itself is wikipedia:Paedophilia#See_also (the link to Brass Eye 2001 Pedophilia Special. I also think the continuous banging on about not being a "Sister Project" is getting rather tiresome, most keeps now refer to changing the template to the same form as wikipedia:Template:Memoryalpha, I am starting to conclude that those still objecting to the template for this reason are simply attempting to muddy the waters and feel that their "Satire is not useful" argument needs propping up --ElvisFromUncyc 8 July 2005 10:57 (UTC) Comment Although I appreciate all users contributions and input, ElvisFromUncyc registered just to vote on this article; see wikipedia:Special:Contributions/ElvisFromUncyc; and is plainly from the website this template would support. It is nice, that he at least made some other contributios to "support", the peoples effected by the latest terrorist attacks. <>Who?¿? 8 July 2005 11:16 (UTC) I never hide the fact that I'm on Uncyclopedia indeed I think my choice of username proves that I could have chosen something entirely generic and would have done but felt that this would be slightly disengeniouse (once this is over I'll probably do that), however I have been a long time "lurker" on wikipedia and carried out odd edits here and there, just never got round to registering (lazy I know), equally, working for a UK local authority, having friends and family in London as well as being British I felt that I had every right to say what I said, I'm not ashamed of any of my edits wikipedia:Special:Contributions/ElvisFromUncyc (note: Some of the edits of wikipedia:Special:Contributions/212.50.162.251 especially the borderline, IMHO, vandalism are not mine due to it being a shared IP - I know, I know I should have registered, of course you'll have to take my word for that)--ElvisFromUncyc 8 July 2005 12:36 (UTC)
* Strong delete - to keep this is to allow effectively external advertising for a non-sister project, and to provide spoof links for all the encyclopedic articles we're trying to collect. Spoofs of an encyclopedia have no place in that encyclopedia. -Splash 8 July 2005 14:28 (UTC)
* Strong delete as per above points mentioned. --Andylkl (talk) July 9, 2005 05:35 (UTC)
* Delete. (SEWilco 9 July 2005 05:53 (UTC))
* Delete I am also very tempted to line Uncyclopedia up for deletion too, for blatant advertising and non-association with WikiMedia. --JB Adder | Talk July 9, 2005 06:05 (UTC)
* If any info about anything that weren't part of WikiMedia were deleted from article space, there wouldn't be much left... you would have turned en: into meta: at best, a blank page at worst. Surely you jest? --carlb 9 July 2005 18:18 (UTC)
* I did say tempted, and I almost did (I retracted at the last minute). The article itself is nothing more than an advertisement; you can tell that from the first line. While for non-association...it does come across to me (others may see otherwise) like it is associated with Wikipedia, and WikiMedia in general. About the only connections I see it has is its use of MediaWiki and the parodying of Wikipedia, and they aren't enough to form an association with WikiMedia. --JB Adder | Talk 00:56, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
* Strong delete. Otherwise we could easily claim to link to, say, WikiAfterDark within reason. Hedley 14:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC) Not just that--there's no reason why wikis should get nice boxes and other sites shouldn't! Any site should be allowed a pretty box! Joe D (t) 14:41, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
* Conditional keep. Should never be used in an article itself, only on a talk page. Motor 15:17, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
* Comment: In line with my "conditional keep" vote above: perhaps it should be edited to say something like: "Feeling frustrated? Blow off steam on uncyclopedia". :) (just for clarity, Motor added and forgot to sign this comment) <>Who?¿?
* Comment: Wording change would depend on where the template was intended to be used (as, if it were kept, most would want to limit its use to talk pages, humour pages, user pages or some narrow combination of these to keep it out of serious article text). A "portions of this text are parody and may therefore be more suited to Uncyclopedia or another venue" might make sense for talk pages, but for user pages? Wording would differ completely. --carlb 16:32, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
* Delete Uncyc admin: Inappropriate to directly link with shiny box from article pages on Wikipedia. If they want to use an external link, that's fine, but the box is just distracting and can mislead users. MemoryAlpha format if they really want, but I think only to make it clear that it's a parody, and decrease misleading people in external links only. --Chronarion 12:04, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
* Delete. — Ram-Man (comment) (talk) 12:50, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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