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| - Just while my laptop is still being too slow for me to really finish the Jak 3 page - and I've still got time to spend being on a break from studying - my critique of Project:Administrators, if you will - and be aware I'm critiquing based on the hypothetical scenario that Jak and Daxter movie coupled with Jak 4 release suddenly appear and bring with them a larger community:
* I don't know how I feel about listing based on order of activity. If the idea is based on reachability, then the amount that the user edits really shouldn't affect how quickly or how well they can respond to anyone approaching them with questions. Instead, listening by alphabetical order and making a brief note on their role might be better to help users know who to ask for what.
* I do agree with "per-trust basis" and "community", but I do not agree with "per-need" or "bureaucrats". Would Baron Praxis ever say "we don't need more Krimzon Guard, we have enough?" If someone is capable, and they have a community agreeing they are capable, why not just hand them the buttons to get things done faster? It's silly to just have a group of people say "well, we're doing the job fine, we don't need your help" and will just end up slowing the process if said user is constanty needing pester the sysops when he could just do the job himself.
* "Not required to use their tools, but still have responsibilities because of them" is a phrase I would use, too, but I'd elaborate by just saying they're not a tool of abuse. They're a tool to clean up the site and prevent vandalism, just not a tool to abuse by silencing anyone who would disagree with you.
* Careful where you use the word "moderators" - remember that Content Moderator and Discussions Moderator are both (new) user rights on Wikia! We have no use for them, so we can decide to ignore them, but people may get confused, particularly when you say "anyone can be a moderator". If some rando user posted "hi I fixed grammar on two pages and your page says anyone can be a moderator so can i be content moderator?????" on my talk page, I'd...be inclined to say "no". That's all I got. Looking good so far!-- 20:24, January 21, 2016 (UTC) Thanks! I'll respond chronologically. I didn't list the usernames based off of edit count, rather, based off of who'd likely be quicker to respond. Although, adding brief notes about our roles still may be a good idea. I'll try a few things out. Right, the problem with your Krimzon Guard analogy is that we're not trying to recruit a whole army of administrators. If we gave everyone who we "trusted" adminship then we'd end up with a hell of a lot of admins. By "per-need" I didn't mean you'll only get admin if the other admins think they need you, I meant, only if there's a practical, specific reason that the person in question actually needs the tools. If they're just good at editing and trustworthy but don't really need to delete pages, for example, there's no reason to make them an admin (because being an admin is more than just "having a few extra buttons".) That said, I changed the line to better clarify what I meant: [[Template:xt|[[Template:xt| is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles. to [[Template:xt|[[Template:xt| is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.. Right, that was just rough phrasing to get an idea of what I wanted to write. I've since elaborated. However, I didn't say that the tools were for cleaning up, because that would contradict the previous sentence that they didn't have to use them. All I included was the ways in which they were required to use them (fulfilling things only they can do upon request/need.) However I did include that they're not to misuse them. Alright, changed to [[Template:xt|[[Template:xt| is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.]] is only for examples of style and formatting. Do not use it in actual articles.. 22:02, January 21, 2016 (UTC) Okay, concerning the user list, I went ahead and added our timezones since the likeliness of a quick response will depend on the person's timezone. 22:05, January 21, 2016 (UTC) All looks good! Nice work.-- 07:59, January 22, 2016 (UTC) Thanks Jo. :) 14:59, January 22, 2016 (UTC)
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