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I (Toph's Fanboy) would like to point out that not all versions of National Socialism were anti-homosexuality; it seems that the one-time leader of the S.A., Ernst Rohm, propagated a radical erotic view of the supremacy of the ideal "Aryan" male warrior as the binding ideology for his particular wing of the Nazis, before political expediency had ol' Adolph execute him out of his position. In addition, support for the claims regarding the socialist elements that existed in the Nazi party before Hitler's purge, once again relating to ol' Ernst Rohm.

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  • I (Toph's Fanboy) would like to point out that not all versions of National Socialism were anti-homosexuality; it seems that the one-time leader of the S.A., Ernst Rohm, propagated a radical erotic view of the supremacy of the ideal "Aryan" male warrior as the binding ideology for his particular wing of the Nazis, before political expediency had ol' Adolph execute him out of his position. In addition, support for the claims regarding the socialist elements that existed in the Nazi party before Hitler's purge, once again relating to ol' Ernst Rohm.
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  • I (Toph's Fanboy) would like to point out that not all versions of National Socialism were anti-homosexuality; it seems that the one-time leader of the S.A., Ernst Rohm, propagated a radical erotic view of the supremacy of the ideal "Aryan" male warrior as the binding ideology for his particular wing of the Nazis, before political expediency had ol' Adolph execute him out of his position. It's also true that Hitler's talks originally focused more on the supposed influence of the Jews in the robbery of international Capitalism conducted against the nation, and thus of the need for all Aryans to seize the property of the Jews and hold it for the common good of the nation, until once again political expediency had him switch to denouncing the perceived and real evils of "Jewish" Bolshevism in Russia and the "stink" of the Social Democrats in Germany. Many Nazis were initially upset by this change in perspective, and Hitler had to convince them that ultimately both capitalism and Marxism stemmed from the imagined materialistic greed of the Jew, and ultimately had to use his iron hand as the dictator of the party to quash those Nazis who continued to disagree with him and who tried to conduct socialist-like measures against the property-holders in Germany. The most relevant passage to my point above is the following, 'Rohm "projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren't as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA." They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning "hysterical women of both sexes", in reference to feminine gay men.' As before, this does not mean I'm in agreement with the homophobic distortions of The Pink Swastika, only that the truth is often more complicated than any particular political camp would like to admit. In addition, support for the claims regarding the socialist elements that existed in the Nazi party before Hitler's purge, once again relating to ol' Ernst Rohm. All this shouldn't be taken as an actual defense of the Nazis on my part (I (Toph's Fanboy) hate their ideology just as thoroughly as almost any other modern person, and perhaps more than some), and rather just part of my general preference for strict accuracy on such matters. After all, it's better to know how thoroughly one's enemies tendrils of evil reach than to simply ignore them to keep one's naive peace of mind.
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