Bhai Hemu Soini, a Sikh resident of Shahdara, 5 km north of Lahore, once visited Guru Arjan. He was accompanied by Bhai Rama and Bhai Jattu, both from Shahdara. They supplicated with folded hands: "0 True King! We regularly hear kirtan and religious discourses, but we retain not what we hear. Be kind to tell us how we shall be saved." The Guru, according to Bhai Mani Singh, Sikhdn di Bhagal Maid, said, "Retention depends upon a combination of hearing, believing, repeated reflection and practising what one hears, believes and reflects upon. Follow this path and you shall be liberated from the cycle of birth and death during this life itself. You shall be jivanmukta. " The name of Bhai Hemu Soini occurs in Bhai Gurdas's roster of leading contemporary Sikhs. See his Varan, XI. 24.