First encountered in the 14th century in a pub that would one day be in London's East End, Gadling postulated that people only die because it is a bad habit, that it is only done because everyone else does it, and that he would have no part of it. Dream believed that this might be an interesting experiment, and so told Gadling that, if he truly believed the way to live forever is simply not to die, Dream would meet him in one hundred years in the same tavern for a drink.