Pedron Niall makes plans with his two spy masters. The first man is just the publicly known spy master who listens to gossip. His true spymaster is his grumpy secretary Sebban Balwer, who doesn't believe in anything unless there is plenty of proof. They talk about Morgase deciding that she has to give in and let them escort her to Caemlyn to take the throne back for her. The Children of the Light would then get to come and go through Andor whenever they wished. They decide that she will have to give in sooner or later, since the longer she stays penned in with them the more the people would believe that she sided with the Whitecloaks, forcing her agree to their terms.