Early on, issues with the formation of Massive Attack proved problematic as there were diametrically opposed genre groups mixing together; black reggae musicians with white pasty faced electronica fans. The early work dealt with the distinct problems of agreement that were first recorded by Idiocrates in 399BC. Idiocrates' question was simple "whether substance derives from language or a meta reality - or that the universe is in an ever changing state of 'Flux'". These problems proved to be the catalyst for the formation of Massive Attack and they attempted to establish order that music had hitherto lacked. Frontman Robert Del Naja commented in 1990 that: