If you defeat his past self, won't his future self cease to exist? Rolandius Image:Wc3Knight.gif (talk - contr) 06:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC) Defeat is not the same as kill. 06:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC) Okay then he says I lose and you get his hat I guess like some of the Mobs do. Rolandius Image:Wc3Knight.gif (talk - contr) 06:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC) Not if he avoid the "Grandfather paradox" (see: ) by that the time in the caverns are alternative timelines/dimension. Perhaps the dragons are wrong, perhaps altering it wouldnt cause the end of the world, just alter it...abit. TherasTaneel (talk • contr). 9:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)