That afternoon, Alcatraz. In his mind, Ladd goes over the method of killing immortals that Firo told him--he could tell that Firo was telling the truth, but he doesn't want to become immortal. Distancing himself from death would completely go against his philosophy. Ladd can't find an answer, and decides to just wait until he's released. One of the guards, a vessel of Sham, quietly tells him that they'll keep away from Lua from now on. Chicago. Carol and the Vice-President had left the restaurant after lunch with Bartolo Runorata and are back at their hotel. Chicago, inside a car. Alveare