Everything from Nightwish is so over-the-top that it dances on the edge of Narm, and what one person finds to be Crowning Music of Awesome can easily fall flat for someone else. The reasoning behind Tarja's dismissal from the band is up for debate, too. Of course, many fans on either side of the argument just read one letter or the other. Also, whether the creator breakdown songs are Tear Jerker material or Wangst/Deus Angst Machina material is dependent on the listener. YMMV entries related to Tarja go to her YMMV page. See also: