Ramon Castillo bartered with a woodworker in Kussara. The woodworker had to consult his god, Kadashman before accepting Castillo's offer. When Castillo asked who the woodworker was speaking to, the woodworker confirmed that it was Kadashman. Steward-King Pitkhanas and priest Radus-piyama happened to pass at this time, and heard Castillo's admission that he'd never heard any god speak to him. Radus-piyama, who was suspicious of the "Terrajin", offered that remark to Pitkhanas as proof of the Terrajin's "accursed" nature.