In November 2008 Digg founder Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht made a "joke" about acts of violence in their Diggnation podcast: "there is only one time you can strike [a woman -] if she kicks you in the balls, you have the ability and the right, to punch her in the teat - it's just like that - it's kinda like tit for tat [Albrecht talks then Kevin again] It hurts them, it does too - or take a scissors to the teat" (Kevin makes cutting action with hand)