Van initially muscles up to Donnie Chen, thinking that he is Raven. However, close inspection reveals they are different people. Raven's marking was on the other side of his face to Don Chen. He tells Van that his family had lived in the flying castle for generations, and they had looked after its "truth". Passing the tests had given Van the right to learn this truth, about the Zoid Eve. Van immediately points out that Horai was nothing like Wendeen or Oluga, to which she replies "Wendy" and "Ollie" were just kids acting mysterious because they hadn't spoken in a couple centuries.