"The patriarchy hurts men too" is a set of silencing or derailing tactics whose basic motif is to draw attention from the original topic to men's issues in feminist discussion. This is usually done by bringing up certain points in a discussion about women's experiences or oppression that women face: Rather than derailing conversations about and between women, men who want to discuss male identity, masculinity and the patriarchy need to create new discussions in spaces that aren't marked as women-centred.