Stephen told O'Reilly that, having spent so much time in a world of spin, he actually felt vertigo once he entered The No Spin Zone. O'Reilly gave his protégé Stephen no quarter, immediately cornering him with a question concerning the origin of his last name. Stephen was forced to admit that his last name is French, but only to try to get cultural and media elites on his side. Stephen was able to blunt some of O'Reilly's criticism with his Irish heritage and Irish middle name 'Tyrone.' O'Reilly ended up deciding that Stephen can be an Irish guy if he wants to be.