Traditionally newspapers could be split into "quality", "serious-minded" newspapers (usually referred to as broadsheets due to their large size) and tabloid, less serious newspapers. However, due to considerations of convenience of reading, particularly in cafés and on trains etc., The Independent and The Times have both recently switched to a 'compact'-sized format, traditionally used by tabloids. The Guardian switched in September 2005 to a Berliner format, a few centimetres wider than a compact, and about 10 centimetres (4 inches) taller.