So you're saying that now he can't make any claims or even guesses about BEAF and should just agree to accept that it's "undefined" and do nothing about it? If so, then I beg to differ, as I still find that people should still be allowed to vary their views on BEAF and stuff. I may be an old-timer, but still. —Comment by Cookiefonster (talk • contribs), moved from the corresponding page