In the settlement, the commandant ordered to bring Karya to the extermination facility, too because "the pretty one", how he named her, was loud and asked to spare her grandfather Penno. Chakotay attacked him before he was knocked out by one of the guards. (VOY: "Nemesis") The photometric projection of the Krenim commandant was one of the violent thoughts, the Mari Guill extracted from Tuvok's mind in 2374. (VOY: "Random Thoughts")