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Casinos are generally considered to be a game created by players using the /roll mechanic. Casinos are not a mechanic of the World of Warcraft game, and may or may not be considered spamming and scamming. Casinos invariable [kaˈzinos] 1. * localité du Pays valencien située dans la province de Valence In CnR, there are a total of three casinos that can be entered. Gambling in casinos was disabled on release of CnR Beta 11. Criminals can rob these casinos through a checkpoint. The fad, originally started by Popple, first came to life with the dice roll system. Popple came up with the idea to use the system to make games in the Contest forum. The first of these were Black Dice and Red Dice. They were simple, but fun. Eventually many more games started to emerge from and other members as well as Popple. Eventually he decided to store them somewhere, in a page where one could esaily have access to his games. With this idea in mind he created the Shadow Land's Premium Casino in the Black Market and many other game makers followed suit. Not only did this give birth to casinos, but VIP accounts which are still sometimes used today. In the end these casinos lead to the birth of the Star Carnival forum, a forum exclusively for these type of gambling games. Casinos are generally considered to be a game created by players using the /roll mechanic. Casinos are not a mechanic of the World of Warcraft game, and may or may not be considered spamming and scamming.
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This may be best answered by clarifying the particular policy at the core of this issue. If I'm able to communicate the "spirit" of the policy, perhaps you can answer your own question. A "casino" is not considered scamming because of randomizing. Casinos became a problem because certain individuals realized math was on their side, and managed to obtain large sums of gold from players lost in the heat of the moment. Human nature is drawn to games of luck under the right circumstances, and this is what the "casino keepers" took advantage of. It was therefore determined to be in the best interests of World of Warcraft to prohibit such gambling activity altogether. Our casino policy exists to limit potential for scamming; it's not aimed to eliminate random factors from the game, nor to make guild-held events more difficult. Randomizing recipients for in-game goods is, in itself, fine - even the built-in looting systems do this all the time. Regardless, you may not accept "entry fees" of any kind during the distribution process, nor otherwise imply potential for "winning" anything, as this would be considered gambling. Do you have in-game goods you would like to distribute among your guild? By all means do so. Simply don't make it into a lottery requiring participants to donate gold or items in order to participate. Please feel free to request further clarification if needed. Casinos are, in and of themselves, not currently against our policies. That said, we are monitoring the practice and the overall response to it very, very actively. As I stated in my prior post: However, a guild lottery is something which we would view differently, particularly as such a lottery is held between trusted guildmates, and there would be no spamming of public channels involved. Remember - the Game Master team are not robots, and we do appreciate that such a guild event can be a lot of fun for participating players. In short, provided such a lottery is kept within guild members, with no spamming of public channels, then we would generally overlook this as a misdemeanour, and not take action against the organising player. The practice of "casinos" -- gambling in major cities using the /random command -- has been a hot topic for many players of late. They have been dominating the city chat channels, and some have been scammed by certain individuals. There has been an overwhelming amount of player feedback on this issue, and after careful evaluation of the situation, our conclusion is as follows: casinos are no longer allowed in World of Warcraft. We certainly encourage players to create their own content within the bounds of the game, however, when such content becomes a detriment to the playerbase as a whole it can force us to make a tough decision such as this. Be advised that casinos encourage spamming and scamming, and there have been a resounding number of complaints about the gambling practice. As such, should a character be found running a casino disciplinary action will be taken in accordance with the rules against Spamming and Advertising, found here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy/harassmentp2.shtml#S We hope this will dramatically improve the atmosphere around Ironforge and Orgrimmar, and reduce the scamming reports we have had. Thank you for being patient with us while we deliberated over this issue! The casinos themselves aren't necessarily currently against our policies. It's kind of a catch 22 though, wherein the activities associated with running an in-game casino are potentially significant violations of our policies. Long story short - it's a really bad idea to try running an in-game casino, and we'd counsel against it. Please do not be surprised if, despite a lack of policy on the casinos themselves, that other account actions result from associated activities, including scamming. There are better ways to turn a profit and entertain oneself in-game. While this practice may not, in an of itself, necessarily represent a violation at the moment, there are activities associated with running an in-game casino which certainly can represent violations; such as spamming or scamming. Also, if it appears that this practice is being abused or is simply having a deleterious effect on the game play environment, we are certainly willing to revise our stance on the subject. Please remember that our ultimate goal is to provide the best and most fun environment for all our players. It remains unwise to run an in-game casino, as it is inherently risky. Merely because you can do something does not mean that you should. Casinos are a behavior that some players have opted to engage in. As of this moment at least, they are certainly not an intended part of World of Warcraft. This is correct. While European and US policies are usually similar, they aren't necessarily identical. Casinos remain against European scam policies at this time, and submitting an in-game ticket to report the matter is indeed an appropriate step to take. Thank you! The European scam policies can be viewed at: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/policy/scam.html To be clear, this e-mail is quite legitimate. In most cases, the e-mail in question is sent only to players who are reportedly participating in casino type games -- such as betting gold on a random roll. Because we received a report, we wanted to let you know about our policies to ensure that you are aware that we strongly discourage this sort of action. This was just a heads up -- nothing more, nothing less. If you have any further questions, let us know. Running any kind of competition or gambling where players must pay to enter can result in action taken against your account; you can run contests and give rewards if you want, but players should not be paying to enter. Casinos are, in and of themselves, not currently against our policies. That said, we are monitoring the practice and the overall response to it very, very actively. As I stated in my prior post: The practice of "casinos" -- gambling in major cities using the /random command -- has been a hot topic for many players of late. They have been dominating the city chat channels, and some have been scammed by certain individuals. There has been an overwhelming amount of player feedback on this issue, and after careful evaluation of the situation, our conclusion is as follows: casinos are no longer allowed in World of Warcraft. We certainly encourage players to create their own content within the bounds of the game, however, when such content becomes a detriment to the playerbase as a whole it can force us to make a tough decision such as this. Be advised that casinos encourage spamming and scamming, and there have been a resounding number of complaints about the gambling practice. As such, should a character be found running a casino disciplinary action will be taken in accordance with the rules against Spamming and Advertising, found here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy/harassmentp2.shtml#S We hope this will dramatically improve the atmosphere around Ironforge and Orgrimmar, and reduce the scamming reports we have had. Thank you for being patient with us while we deliberated over this issue! The casinos themselves aren't necessarily currently against our policies. It's kind of a catch 22 though, wherein the activities associated with running an in-game casino are potentially significant violations of our policies. Long story short - it's a really bad idea to try running an in-game casino, and we'd counsel against it. Please do not be surprised if, despite a lack of policy on the casinos themselves, that other account actions result from associated activities, including scamming. There are better ways to turn a profit and entertain oneself in-game. This may be best answered by clarifying the particular policy at the core of this issue. If I'm able to communicate the "spirit" of the policy, perhaps you can answer your own question. A "casino" is not considered scamming because of randomizing. Casinos became a problem because certain individuals realized math was on their side, and managed to obtain large sums of gold from players lost in the heat of the moment. Human nature is drawn to games of luck under the right circumstances, and this is what the "casino keepers" took advantage of. It was therefore determined to be in the best interests of World of Warcraft to prohibit such gambling activity altogether. Our casino policy exists to limit potential for scamming; it's not aimed to eliminate random factors from the game, nor to make guild-held events more difficult. Randomizing recipients for in-game goods is, in itself, fine - even the built-in looting systems do this all the time. Regardless, you may not accept "entry fees" of any kind during the distribution process, nor otherwise imply potential for "winning" anything, as this would be considered gambling. Do you have in-game goods you would like to distribute among your guild? By all means do so. Simply don't make it into a lottery requiring participants to donate gold or items in order to participate. Please feel free to request further clarification if needed. However, a guild lottery is something which we would view differently, particularly as such a lottery is held between trusted guildmates, and there would be no spamming of public channels involved. Remember - the Game Master team are not robots, and we do appreciate that such a guild event can be a lot of fun for participating players. In short, provided such a lottery is kept within guild members, with no spamming of public channels, then we would generally overlook this as a misdemeanour, and not take action against the organising player. While this practice may not, in an of itself, necessarily represent a violation at the moment, there are activities associated with running an in-game casino which certainly can represent violations; such as spamming or scamming. Also, if it appears that this practice is being abused or is simply having a deleterious effect on the game play environment, we are certainly willing to revise our stance on the subject. Please remember that our ultimate goal is to provide the best and most fun environment for all our players. It remains unwise to run an in-game casino, as it is inherently risky. Merely because you can do something does not mean that you should. Casinos are a behavior that some players have opted to engage in. As of this moment at least, they are certainly not an intended part of World of Warcraft. This is correct. While European and US policies are usually similar, they aren't necessarily identical. Casinos remain against European scam policies at this time, and submitting an in-game ticket to report the matter is indeed an appropriate step to take. Thank you! The European scam policies can be viewed at: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/policy/scam.html To be clear, this e-mail is quite legitimate. In most cases, the e-mail in question is sent only to players who are reportedly participating in casino type games -- such as betting gold on a random roll. Because we received a report, we wanted to let you know about our policies to ensure that you are aware that we strongly discourage this sort of action. This was just a heads up -- nothing more, nothing less. If you have any further questions, let us know. Running any kind of competition or gambling where players must pay to enter can result in action taken against your account; you can run contests and give rewards if you want, but players should not be paying to enter.
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Re: Rules on Gambling/Casino Re: In-Game updated casino policy!! Re: Lottery? Re: Guild Lotto, Illegal or not Re: Wow Blizzard, don't you look at the facts? Re: Guild lotterys? Re: On the lift on casino bans.... Re: Casinos Email Casinos Are No Longer Allowed Re: Guild Lotto, Illegal or not Re: Wow Blizzard, don't you look at the facts? Casinos Are No Longer Allowed Re: Rules on Gambling/Casino Re: In-Game updated casino policy!! Re: Casinos Email Re: Lottery? Re: Guild lotterys? Re: On the lift on casino bans....
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The fad, originally started by Popple, first came to life with the dice roll system. Popple came up with the idea to use the system to make games in the Contest forum. The first of these were Black Dice and Red Dice. They were simple, but fun. Eventually many more games started to emerge from and other members as well as Popple. Eventually he decided to store them somewhere, in a page where one could esaily have access to his games. With this idea in mind he created the Shadow Land's Premium Casino in the Black Market and many other game makers followed suit. Not only did this give birth to casinos, but VIP accounts which are still sometimes used today. In the end these casinos lead to the birth of the Star Carnival forum, a forum exclusively for these type of gambling games. Casinos are generally considered to be a game created by players using the /roll mechanic. Casinos are not a mechanic of the World of Warcraft game, and may or may not be considered spamming and scamming. Casinos invariable [kaˈzinos] 1. * localité du Pays valencien située dans la province de Valence Casinos are generally considered to be a game created by players using the /roll mechanic. Casinos are not a mechanic of the World of Warcraft game, and may or may not be considered spamming and scamming. In CnR, there are a total of three casinos that can be entered. Gambling in casinos was disabled on release of CnR Beta 11. Criminals can rob these casinos through a checkpoint.