"Any comments and changes would be appreciated (and yes i forgot to log in...) Smurf Minions 12:50, 29 May 2008 (EDT) Shouldn't it be \"Weakener\" and not \"Weaker\"? \u0321\u034Cl\u0321*\u0321\u0321 \u0334\u0321\u0131\u0334\u0334\u0321 \u0321\u0321\u0361|\u0332\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361\u0361 \u0332\u25AB\u0332\u0361 \u0332\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361I\u0361n\u0361f\u0361i\u0361d\u0361e\u0361l\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361 \u0332\u0332\u0361\u25AB\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361 \u0332|\u0321\u0321\u0321 \u0321 \u0334\u0321\u0131__\u0321\u034Cl\u0321* 00:36, 30 May 2008 (EDT) Now that Discord has a one second activation time i think you should switch Mind Bender it out for a better PvE skill. if shadow of fear 2 sec activation seems like a problem switch it for something like the already mentioned suffering or Pbond. Watch me work it 04:31, 30 May 2008 (EDT) \u00AC Klumpeet 07:36{GMT}31-05-MMVIII"@en . . . "Any comments and changes would be appreciated (and yes i forgot to log in...) Smurf Minions 12:50, 29 May 2008 (EDT) Shouldn't it be \"Weakener\" and not \"Weaker\"? \u0321\u034Cl\u0321*\u0321\u0321 \u0334\u0321\u0131\u0334\u0334\u0321 \u0321\u0321\u0361|\u0332\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361\u0361 \u0332\u25AB\u0332\u0361 \u0332\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361I\u0361n\u0361f\u0361i\u0361d\u0361e\u0361l\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361 \u0332\u0332\u0361\u25AB\u0332\u0332\u0361\u0361 \u0332|\u0321\u0321\u0321 \u0321 \u0334\u0321\u0131__\u0321\u034Cl\u0321* 00:36, 30 May 2008 (EDT) Now that Discord has a one second activation time i think you should switch Mind Bender it out for a better PvE skill. if shadow of fear 2 sec activation seems like a problem switch it for something like the already mentioned suffering or Pbond. Watch me work it 04:31, 30 May 2008 (EDT) Discord used to have 2 seconds activation. It was buffed. - 04:46, 30 May 2008 (EDT) i know, thats why i typed 'now that'. Watch me work it 05:01, 30 May 2008 (EDT) Why would you want to stop using it because it was buffed? Do you mean switch out Necrosis? Discord still has a 2 second recharge, so does necrosis. This way you can spam spam spam more. Necrosis only does slightly less damage, even with aftercast I think you'd win. - 06:36, 30 May 2008 (EDT) i meant switch out Mind Bender, sorry typed it wrong ;), Mind Bender is still useful but so are lots of other PvE only skills.Watch me work it 12:43, 30 May 2008 (EDT) \n* Weapon of Warding>Resilient with all that condition removal \n* Mend Body and Soul>Vengeful Weapon \n* The minion bomber should be necro primary to have a hope of maintaining energy. \n* Infuse Condition isn't useful there because it doesn't have any form of draw and isn't meant to be tanking. \u00AC Klumpeet 07:36{GMT}31-05-MMVIII I also think a normal necro MM is better, i use that myself but haven't tried the rit one so not commenting about it. Resilient weapon is great for its armor, since you will have almost only low armor partymembers, and Mend Body and Soul>Vengeful Weapon really depends on the situation. Btw, signet of lost souls overkill imo since you already have SR and a minion bomber. Watch me work it 04:29, 31 May 2008 (EDT) I don't really have a problem with having a N/Rt Bomber, although I would take out Discord for Jagged Bones, Infuse Condition for Animate Shambling Horror and possibly find room for Spirit's Gift (for lots of small heals for your Minions). Some skills to consider for your Rt/Ns would be Protective Was Kaolai, Pure Was Li Ming and Weapon of Shadow. -Mike 08:53, 31 May 2008 (EDT) I tried all of these but jagged bones isn't neccesary, animate bone minions is more than enought. one shambling horrors isnt enought, tried taking shambling on 2-3 necro but then they all cast it at same time which greatly lowers efficiency. infuse conditions isn't worth taking i agree. i also took PwK on every N/Rt, works really really well. another advantage of a necro Minion bomber is that you have room for a secondary, creating room for the always useful Protective Spirit. Watch me work it 10:01, 31 May 2008 (EDT) I agree on you guys, i think i'll switch the bomber to n/mo with aegis, PS and SoA, and PwK isnt that bad idea to have on 1 n/rt Smurf Minions 15:03, 31 May 2008 (EDT)"@en . . "Build talk:Team - Discordway/Archive 1"@en . . .