. . "SO what was the reason for failing last time?--X 16:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC) he declined. ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:53, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Again, just for those questioning, I will say this. PvX doesn't force you to play the game. PvX doesnt say \"hey, interrupt a skill\". PvX is simply telling which builds are good, which builds are bad, and why. In this, Frosty is better then almost everyone on PvX, and most people on Guild Wars. Who gives a rats ass if he hasn't played high rank gvg/ha? Jake was promoted before he had ever gvg'd. Alex still hasn't ever done a lot of either (he has done some HA, and lamed gvg with smurf :P ), and he's still a fine BM because he understand how the game works. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 17:24, January 21, 2"@en . "PvXwiki talk:Requests for Build Master Status/Frosty"@en . "SO what was the reason for failing last time?--X 16:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC) he declined. ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:53, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Again, just for those questioning, I will say this. PvX doesn't force you to play the game. PvX doesnt say \"hey, interrupt a skill\". PvX is simply telling which builds are good, which builds are bad, and why. In this, Frosty is better then almost everyone on PvX, and most people on Guild Wars. Who gives a rats ass if he hasn't played high rank gvg/ha? Jake was promoted before he had ever gvg'd. Alex still hasn't ever done a lot of either (he has done some HA, and lamed gvg with smurf :P ), and he's still a fine BM because he understand how the game works. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 17:24, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I am sure most people are good at the game. Just cause they don't get circled jerked on PVX dosen't make them bad at GW.--X 18:22, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Nop. --Crow 18:25, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I said good not great. Or do you mean you need PVX to play GW at a high lvl.--X 18:30, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Crow means a majority of people are not good at Guild Wars. --Frosty Image:Frostcharge.jpg 18:39, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Well I guess there is a miss communitcation with the word \"good\". Someone who can finish the game and able to hold there own in PvP is who I consider \"good\". Sounds like you guys have an different take on the word \"good\".--X 18:51, January 21, 2010 (UTC) yea to us good means good :> \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 18:54, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Good.--X 18:57, January 21, 2010 (UTC) less ad hom. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:21, January 21, 2010 (UTC) You're so cool. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:22, 21 January 2010 and you and vince are dumb for caring who nominates him, i'm just another support vote, who gives a shit that i initiated the process? \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:24, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Was that the only reason I gave? Wow, I am dumb. Thank you for your clarification, Gringo. You are by far the most valued user of this wiki. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:27, 21 January 2010 way to tack on an irrelevant argument to try and look cool. your other reason \"im not sure if he still obs's a lot\". between the two reasons, you look like a retard. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Thank you for your analysis of my general demeanor here on PvX, Gringo. I will take to heart the things you have explained to me and do my best to implement changes in my personality that reflect your kind constructive criticism. Again, thank you. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:31, 21 January 2010 cool deflection, bro. back to what i was saying, less ad hom, he'd be a great bm. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:32, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I'm afraid I'll need to request your kind assistance again, young Gringo. Exactly what ad hominems are you claiming exist on the project page? It seems to be that there aren't any. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:38, 21 January 2010 You people use ad hominem too much without knowing what it means. Also I agree with KJ, and I disagree with anyone else. -- Big McStrongfist 20:39, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Big, and therefore agree with myself. On a serious note (and to end all my ridiculousness), there is a reason Frosty would have lost the last BM nomination....if I have to spell out why then I think it defeats the purpose of bringing it up, so I'll stop there. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:42, 21 January 2010 ad hom is arguing against the presenter rather then against the idea, which is exactly what kj is doing. he cares more about the fact that i nominated frosty then the nomination itself. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC) it is more closely arguing with the presenter while adding uncharacteristic references to the presenter rather than with the presentation. Ups. -- Big McStrongfist 20:47, January 21, 2010 (UTC) there are a multitude of ways ad hom can be used, picking one and then saying \"oh ur doing it wrong. ups!\" is dumb. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:50, January 21, 2010 (UTC) (EC)Actually, you're wrong. To be fair, Jake thought ad hominem meant the same thing you do. It doesn't. Ad hominem means that you link your argument's validity to an issue or topic that doesn't apply to the argument. For example, if I were having an argument about morality and my reply was that the other person's argument was invalid because he's a filthy asshole, then that's an ad hominem. However, when the topic is a person, as in any election, the validity of their character and/or the actions they have or have not taken is in fact on topic and valid. Therefore, arguments about whether or not Frosty has obs'd recently fully applies to this nomination. Graduate high school, and then you're more than welcome to correct me :D Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:51, 21 January 2010 (EC \u00D71)arguing with admins and calling them names is even more dumb. ^ -- Big McStrongfist 20:52, January 21, 2010 (UTC) not if theyre retards. and again, picking one form of ad hom and claiming all other uses of it are wrong is, again, dumb. \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 20:52, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Ad hominem is not a literary style that can be interpreted. It is a term well used to explain exactly what I just told you. There is no other usage. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:54, 21 January 2010 lol @ forms of a phrase with one meaning. -- Big McStrongfist 20:56, January 21, 2010 (UTC) Oh, and again, graduate high school and then you're more than welcome to correct me on literary terms. You may want to take a few years of Greek and Latin first, though. Just to catch up. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:57, 21 January 2010 Good--X 21:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC) (Reset indent) can we swing the topic back to Frosty's RfBM instead of the meaning of Latin phrases? By all means keep arguing but take it to someones talk =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:06, January 21, 2010 (UTC) ^I agree with Phen! --Crow 21:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC) sorry phen, retards telling me a phrase can only have one meaning, and that i haven't graduated high school. gets on my tits. need more votes on la page! \u2014The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk \u2022 contribs) (UTC). 21:10, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I don't see the problem with Frosty having a 200% vote--X 21:13, January 21, 2010 (UTC) I'm still thinking it over. I'd love to hear from Frosty, as to why he thinks he should have it. Karate File:KJ for sig.png Jesus 21:16, 21 January 2010"@en . . .