"Wouldn't you want to go for the regen breakpoint at 12 Prot? --NYC Elite 12:04, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Probably :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 12:47, 24 June 2007 (EDT) As much as I hate this build, the list of usable runners with the warding and blurred nerfs consists of this build, Monk runners, and Rit runners... Which is sad. I miss offensive runners(although I'm not quite sure that the old Icy Shackles E/Rt can be accurately called such with not even enough damage to outdamage the healing provided by healsig on a mesmer with no armor who's using frenzy and 0 tactics). We need and SoR Mo/E runner build, now. --Edru viransu 16:50, 24 June 2007 (EDT)"@en . "Build talk:E/Mo SoR Flag Runner"@en . . . "Wouldn't you want to go for the regen breakpoint at 12 Prot? --NYC Elite 12:04, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Probably :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 12:47, 24 June 2007 (EDT) As much as I hate this build, the list of usable runners with the warding and blurred nerfs consists of this build, Monk runners, and Rit runners... Which is sad. I miss offensive runners(although I'm not quite sure that the old Icy Shackles E/Rt can be accurately called such with not even enough damage to outdamage the healing provided by healsig on a mesmer with no armor who's using frenzy and 0 tactics). We need and SoR Mo/E runner build, now. --Edru viransu 16:50, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Offensive runner O.o? There were few to begin with... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:53, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Air spikers a long time ago. - Image:Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 16:55, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Yeah...Air Spike was pretty imba though. Took Anet only a few months to realize that lmao. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:56, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Cripshots and other ranger runners were fairly offensive. Shatterstone water eles were pretty offensive. Mind Blast, Bsurge E/Rts. Me/A runners back when Shadow of Haste was good. Besides, one of the main reasons at least some top guilds started running an LoD monk at stand was that it allowed them to use a more offensive runner. --Edru viransu 17:04, 24 June 2007 (EDT) Isn't this just the metta E/Mo Flagger??? Yes, that's the point. The poster never said he invented the build. VegaObscura 08:29, 1 July 2007 (CEST) Meta is Meta for a reason. It's good. What's wrong with that. Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg *Defiant Elements* +talk 08:34, 1 July 2007 (CEST) The attributes are wrong. Everyone runs 14 Water, 10 Prot. Water runners are slow enough already without knocking two more seconds off Armor of Mist, and SoR is plenty homosexual enough without taking 12 in Prot. 87.74.70.98 19:16, 2 July 2007 (CEST) I find this usage of homosexual to be offensive. Can it please be moderated. Zuranthium 19:52, 18 August 2007 (CEST) I don't think policy actually prohibits such use of homosexual unless it's directed insultingly at another person. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 20:46, 18 August 2007 (CEST) 2 seconds does not make the difference when running. 20% of Enchanting Mod. Mending Touch and SoR break points need 12. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:52, 2 July 2007 (CEST) Of course you take a 20% enchanting mod - but that's irrelevant to what water spec you use. Seriously, the SoR and MT breakpoints are a lot less important than the AoM, FG, IS and BV breakpoints. I'll say it again: everyone I've ever spoken to in mid to very high level guilds runs 14 Water, 10 Prot. 12 Prot kinda works too, but it isn't the meta flagger. My guess is that the people pushing for 12 Prot don't actually GvG with this build - or at least not at a reasonable level. 87.74.52.141 14:27, 3 July 2007 (CEST) Agree, should be changed to 14-10-8 imo. Tycn 14:59, 3 July 2007 (CEST) /agree, I run 14 10 9 actually. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Image:Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)\u00B7(contributions) 22:40, 11 July 2007 (CEST) Speak less, do more. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:44, 11 July 2007 (CEST)"@en .