"May"@en . . "2007"^^ . "A transcript is a retrospective written record of dialogue, and like a script (a prospective record) may include other scene information such as props or actions. In the case of a transcript of a film or television episode, ideally it is a verbatim record. Because closed-captioning is usually written separately, its text may have errors and does not necessarily reflect the true Canonical transcript. Kris White: Ben purges his past, Jacob asks for help and Locke goes to the grave. We\u2019ll have the inside scoop on all that and more on today\u2019s official lost podcast, hosted by abc.com. [Lost Opening theme] Kris White: Well, it\u2019s finally official. Lost will go off the air in 2010. Executive producers, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are here today to discuss that revelation along with a few things we learned about Ben and the Dharma Initiative. They\u2019ll also be taking your fan questions from abc.com and tease next week\u2019s episode, \u201CGreatest Hits,\u201D which airs Wednesday, May 16th from 10-11 pm. First up though, we have this special interview with actor Dominic Monaghan. [Lost Podcast theme] Kris White: Dominic Monaghan has always been a beloved member of the cast, but lately his character seems to have the sword of Damocles hanging over him. The question everyone wants to know is: can his character escape fate? But for Dominic, he\u2019s not as worried as some fans. Back at the beginning of the season, we asked him what he thought of the possibility of his character dying. Dominic Monaghan:: Oh, I don\u2019t mind. I just don\u2019t mind. It\u2019s uh\u2026 It\u2019s not something that I think about um\u2026 I like the show, I like being in Hawaii and I love the relationships that I\u2019ve made with people. I don\u2019t think that if my character died those relationships would dissolve. I think I would still have them and ultimately you know this industry and my life is about the relationships that I forge, you know. Kris White: For Dom, he\u2019s always viewed his roles as a chance to do something he\u2019s never done, be well known for it then break the mold with something completely different. Dominic Monaghan: I\u2019m not necessarily defined by, I hope, by this character, you know, I\u2019m defined by the fact that I\u2019m an actor. This is a small facet in my career and a great one and a peak and something that I enjoy. But I would hate to think in ten years time that people, you know, are still saying, \u201COh you\u2019re Charlie.\u201D The challenge, for me at least, I set myself is: What does the audience think that you are and how can you now prove that you are not that? Now, so in Rings it was a fantasy based character, you know, more of a child-like, whimsical, sweet guy. And with Lost, it complimented it so well cause it was a contemporary guy, dark, moody, sarcastic, broken, you know it\u2019s such a worldly difference from the character that I played in Lord of the Rings. Next, you know, I have to think about playing someone who isn\u2019t like Charlie, you know, where do I go from there? And as soon as the audience knows you, as soon as they can pin something on you, you know, \u201COh that\u2019s a Dominic Monaghan part,\u201D or \u201CWhy didn\u2019t Dominic Monaghan play that part, that\u2019s perfect for him.\u201D As far as I\u2019m concerned, you\u2019re kind of failing as an actor, you know. I want them to continually be kind of intrigued and shocked like, \u201CI didn\u2019t realize that he could play that.\u201D [Scene from Catch-22] Charlie: You said, \u201CDuck\u201D\u2026 Desmond: Sorry? Charlie: You shouted, \u201CDuck!\u201D You knew, even before we set off. You knew all this time, didn\u2019t you? Desmond: Aye. Charlie: Well then why didn\u2019t you say anything? Desmond: Because if I had told you the truth, you wouldn\u2019t have come. Charlie: Oh. You needed me to come, \u2018cause I was part of your vision. You thought the only way you could get your girl back was if I took an arrow in the head. You were gonna sacrifice me. Desmond: If the flashes don\u2019t happen exactly as I saw them, the picture changes. I was supposed to let you die, Charlie. Dominic Monaghan:: We\u2019ve worked together quite closely this year, Ian and I. You know, he goes for it and he commits and I would like to think that I do the same thing and I\u2019m always kind of available for him whenever he needs me and he is as well. And I\u2019m, you know, we talk about marmite and wine gums and good bread and good butter, that you don\u2019t get in America. You know, as two actors, we have a lot of respect for each other. Kris White: Of course the other actors in the cast also have a lot of respect for Dominic. As we\u2019ve reported before, many of them actually turn to him for new music advice. So we thought it was only appropriate that we found out what he\u2019s listening to right now, you know, maybe get some advice for ourselves. Dominic Monaghan:: My love of music changes on a daily basis. I have my standards that I always play. But in terms of stuff that I\u2019m listening to, I really like Imogen Heap right now, that\u2019s kinda fun. I really enjoy the new Keane album, even though they get a lot of flack in the press for some reason because they\u2019re girly boys, but they still make good music so I don\u2019t really understand that. Kasabian\u2019s new album, I thought, was smart. I really like Ray LaMontagne and Iron and Wine. Obviously, Radiohead is like a standard, if you like music, you like Radiohead. Anyone who doesn\u2019t like Radiohead doesn\u2019t like music as far as I\u2019m concerned. So I like Thom Yorke\u2019s new album, thought that was good. Corrine Bailey Rae, I\u2019m really enjoying right now. So I\u2019m always just looking for new stuff. I actually got given a gift last night, it was fantastic, by a girl in a crowd, which sounds like completely hollow, but it\u2019s true. She gave me this CD and she\u2019s like, \"It\u2019s a gift.\" And I went, \u201COh, thanks,\u201D and I gave her a hug and I walked off, and it was all jungle sounds from Borneo. So I get into my room last night and turned all the lights off and I was throwing water up into the air and I had this CD on, with like jaguars and monkeys and birds and stuff. Brilliant, got naked, covered myself in mud, felt like I was in Apocalypto. Kris White: That\u2019s all the time we have now for Dominic Monaghan and his jungle boogie. Instead, we now turn it over to executive producers, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse to find out about their \u201CGreatest Hits.\u201D [Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof\u2019s theme] Carlton Cuse: Hey, it\u2019s Carlton Cuse! Damon Lindelof: Hi, Damon Lindelof, here. Carlton Cuse: And welcome to our podcast. Damon Lindelof: It is our penultimate podcast. Carlton Cuse: Yes, indeed. We will be coming to you next week and then we\u2019re gonna let you watch the finale and we\u2019re going on vacation. Damon Lindelof: Yes, we\u2019re going on vacation after the finale so we\u2019re just gonna let it sit there and be picked apart and we will not tell you what to think about it or answer anymore questions. Carlton Cuse: In fact, you\u2019ll tell us what to think. Damon Lindelof: Yeah, you\u2019ll tell us what to think, that\u2019s good. We\u2019ll do a Salinger-esque sort of departure. It\u2019s going to be very exciting. Carlton Cuse: We have had a huge week. This was actually the\u2026 We, as you all probably know, have for a long time been trying to resolve the issue of when we would end the show and I think everyone has, you know. There\u2019s been a lot of anxiety, I think, behind a lot of these questions, you know, \u201Cdo you guys know where you\u2019re going?\u201D \u201CAre you making it up as you go along?\u201D \u201CDo you having an ending for the show?\u201D I mean what\u2019s underlying all those questions is a fear that it\u2019s not going to end well and that\u2026 Damon Lindelof: Or it\u2019s not gonna end period. Carlton Cuse: Or that it will just whither away. You know, it was really, really important to the two of us that we not, you know, end the show after the show was no longer relevant. We didn\u2019t want the end\u2026 See, there\u2019s the ringing phone Damon Lindelof: There it is. That\u2019s one down. Carlton Cuse: So, we basically, you know, it was really important to us that we could kind of\u2026 for many reasons figure out what the end point was to kind of provide a certain measure of confidence for the fans, you know. We love the J.K. Rowling model and if you haven\u2019t heard specifically we are going to be doing 48 episodes more of the show and that\u2019s gonna break down over three seasons of sixteen episodes each. Damon Lindelof: We feel that the story we\u2019ve gotta tell is actually gonna go sort of compartmentalize very nicely over that span of time. Carlton Cuse: Yeah, I mean, you know, as we started really focusing in on 48 episodes we started thinking about the remaining story we had and it kinda did fit nicely into three pods of sixteen episodes. So, we sort of feel that not only kinda in total episodes, but also in the structural delivery of the episodes we\u2019re really doing the right thing for the show. Damon Lindelof: But you should know we\u2019re only going to do 35 more podcasts, in a separate deal that we reached this week. We just didn\u2019t feel like there was as many podcasts left as there were episodes. So\u2026 Carlton Cuse: We definitely want to give a huge shout-out to Steve Macpherson and Mark Pedowitz the people who run ABC and what I now guess is called ABC Television Studios, formerly known as Touchstone Television. Damon Lindelof: They\u2019re like Prince; they changed their name from symbol back to ABC TV. Carlton Cuse: The studio formerly known as Touchstone. But you know, really without the vision and leadership of those guys we never would have accomplished this. Damon Lindelof: The fans don\u2019t care about when the show\u2019s gonna end cause they love it so much. Let\u2019s talk about what\u2019s going on right now, Carlton. Carlton Cuse: You don\u2019t seem very energetic today, Damon. You seem a little down. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019m a little sleepy. Last night we watched the finale for the first time. Carlton Cuse: All the way from start to finish. Damon Lindelof: We just finished shooting it on Monday. Carlton Cuse: We have four editors working around the clock trying to edit it. We have to lock it on Sunday of this week. Damon Lindelof: So it will be on the air in exactly thirteen days. So we\u2019re cutting it a little close. Carlton Cuse: But we\u2019re really pleased with how it\u2019s coming along. I think that when it\u2019s all said and done we hope you guys will like it as much as we did. Damon Lindelof: The robots are not as convincing as I would have liked right now. Carlton Cuse: They\u2019ll be much better by the finale. Damon Lindelof: Hopefully, it\u2019s some quality post-work. Carlton Cuse: Now, I know the biggest question that\u2019s gonna come up out of this announcement, which actually, I\u2019m surprised there wasn\u2019t a question about here is: what does this mean for the Zombie Season? Damon Lindelof: I was going to ask you that question, actually, Carlton. Carlton Cuse: Were you? Damon Lindelof: Yes. Carlton Cuse: Was it in your questions? Damon Lindelof: It\u2019s right here, actually. Carlton Cuse: Let\u2019s just jump right in there then we\u2019ll go back to the rehash. Damon Lindelof: Then we\u2019ll go and rehash. Carlton Cuse: While you find that, I\u2019ll play a little banjo. [Banjo music] Damon Lindelof: Wow, that\u2019s nice, that\u2019s good. Wow, you\u2019ve been working on it\u2026 Yeah, here it is. Hey, Damon and Carlton. It\u2019s from Peruvian Idol, one post in the last 90 days. \u201CMike here, with just one post in the last 90 days, a nice healthy number to say the least. I just wanted to congratulate you on the announcement that Lost will run for three more seasons. However, does this mean there won\u2019t be a season seven with zombies? I was really looking forward to that. Maybe you could do a spinoff and introduce the Zombie Show in the final season of Lost \u00E1 la Grey\u2019s Anatomy. Keep up the good work and don\u2019t let your massive new deals go to your heads.\u201D Carlton Cuse: Um\u2026 Yes, well we will have to enter a separate negotiation with ABC about the zombie season. As currently planned, unfortunately, we actually are going to be ending just shy of the zombie season and in all of the kind of frenzy of negotiations we never really fully resolved what we were gonna do about the zombie season. Damon Lindelof: Zombies are very difficult to negotiate with, traditionally. They are not interested in the same things that we are in our mortal life. But we\u2019ll do our best. We\u2019ll see what we can do. Carlton Cuse: At least, maybe a zombie feature would be good. Damon Lindelof: Alright, now let\u2019s travel back in time like Desmond and do a little bit of rehashing. Last night\u2019s episode, The Man behind the Curtain, written by Drew Goddard and Elizabeth Sarnoff and Elizabeth Sarnoff and Drew Goddard. Carlton Cuse: And it was a, you know, an episode that really fired people\u2019s imaginations, I think. It obviously involved a very significant advancement of the show\u2019s mythology because now we don\u2019t just have Ben, we now have sort of made manifest this character, Jacob. And you know we saw\u2026 Damon Lindelof: Did we? Carlton Cuse: We saw something in there. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019m not sure what I saw. Carlton Cuse: Some people say they saw Locke in a wig. Some people say it was Christian Shephard with a bad hair job. Damon Lindelof: Wow. Carlton Cuse: Some people say they didn\u2019t see anything. Other people saw a very strange eyeball and we\u2019re wondering what that was all about. Damon Lindelof: I guess it\u2019s all a matter of interpretation, isn\u2019t it? But this is one of those things where we write the script in a certain way, we want to show something, then you get in the editing room and kind of wonder, \u201CAre we showing too much? Are we showing not enough?\u201D Then, obviously, it goes over the airwaves and you know, we were hoping to create a TiVo moment, purposefully. And it would appear that we\u2019ve achieved that. Carlton Cuse: You know, we unfortunately will probably frustrate you by not saying too much about Jacob, but I think it would be premature for us to discuss Jacob in any detail as it will spoil upcoming stories. I mean, we will say this: Jacob is more of a question for season four than he is for season three. We sort of see the rest of the mission of season three dealing sort of more pragmatically with The Others we have established. Damon Lindelof: Last night was a heavily mythological episode, you know, a lot of stuff with the Dharma Initiative and learning a little bit about Ben, although we left out some very big story beats, but ultimately this is all set up so that the remainder of the season can really play on the characters kind of that we know and love and get to this\u2026 Carlton Cuse: Or know and hate. Damon Lindelof: Or know and hate, that\u2019s right. And get to this confrontation between the two camps. Carlton Cuse: And, you know, I think it\u2019s interesting because we sort of felt like the flashback story was telling us a lot about Ben\u2019s origins. We realize that he was lying, that he was not in fact born on the island, that he came as a recruited member of the Dharma initiative. And we really learned a lot about the Dharma Initiative\u2019s inter-relationship with The Others. And we saw that The Others actually purged the Dharma Initiative; they took some members of the Dharma Initiative and they inculcated into The Others, the rest of them were\u2026 Damon Lindelof: We didn\u2019t see that. Carlton Cuse: Well, it was referred to. Damon Lindelof: Really? Carlton Cuse: Ben says at the end, \u201Cme and a few others\u2026\u201D basically he says some line basically about how there were some people who weren\u2019t purged. Damon Lindelof: Who weren\u2019t smart\u2026. Who were smart enough to\u2026 Carlton Cuse: To not get purged. Damon Lindelof: Interesting. Carlton Cuse: But now we do know that The Others basically wiped out the Dharma Initiative and that\u2026 Damon Lindelof: I could use a good purging. Carlton Cuse: You\u2019re barely can today, I mean\u2026 Damon Lindelof: I just could\u2026 Carlton Cuse: My God, that or a double espresso. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019m a little curious, obviously, I think we\u2019re sort of ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room here, which is John Locke takes a bullet in the gut. Is he dead or what\u2019s going on then? Carlton Cuse: Wow, wow. Damon Lindelof: It\u2019s sort of a shocking ending. Carlton Cuse: You know, he didn\u2019t look dead when the show was over, which I was very relieved to see. Damon Lindelof: Well, is he dead now, then? Carlton Cuse: If I was a betting man, I would not bet on John Locke being dead. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019ll bet you five dollars he is. Carlton Cuse: Okay. I\u2019ll take that bet. Damon Lindelof: You\u2019re on. Carlton Cuse: Alright, wow, that\u2019s cool, that\u2019s gonna pay for some good commissary fruit in a box. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019m really curious to see what the outcome of that bet is. Why do you think, Carlton, if you were a betting man\u2026 Carlton Cuse: I am a betting man. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019ve just proved that you are. Carlton Cuse: I don\u2019t usually bet, but now I have. Does that violate any kind of, you know, FCC rules if we bet on the show? Damon Lindelof: As long as no money is actually exchanged. If you were to win the five dollars, I just wouldn\u2019t give it to you. And then, we well\u2026 Carlton Cuse: You\u2019re making this up as you\u2019re going along. Damon Lindelof: Well, like you said\u2026 Carlton Cuse: You lost the five dollars\u2026 Damon Lindelof: I wouldn\u2019t want to be sued by the FCC here. Carlton Cuse: Are they gonna sue you? They can\u2019t sue you. Damon Lindelof: I don\u2019t really know if we\u2019re governed by the\u2026 You know, the rules of the podcast are sort of very vague. We can do pretty much whatever we want. Why did Ben shoot Locke, Carlton? Carlton Cuse: Ben took Locke out to see Jacob as sort of a Litmus test; he wanted to find out if, in fact, John Locke really was special. And if John Locke could see or hear Jacob that would indicate that Locke was special. So when Locke did hear Jacob, that really freaked Ben out; that was a threat to Ben and his primacy. So he led him over to the pit and he shot him because he doesn\u2019t want his leadership of The Others challenged by John Locke. Let\u2019s go to some questions. Okay, I\u2019ve got an awesome question here for you. \u201CGreetings, Lord Darlton,\u201D posted by FinnMacCool555. Damon Lindelof: Can I guess how many posts in the last 90 days? Carlton Cuse: Yes. Damon Lindelof: Just based on what I already know. I\u2019m gonna go with 75. Carlton Cuse: Four! Damon Lindelof: Wow. Carlton Cuse: Four. You are so wrong. Damon Lindelof: I\u2019m sorry, Finn. Carlton Cuse: Finn, you are so MacCool. I love you already. Damon Lindelof: Alright, break it down for. Carlton Cuse: \u201CMy Liege, I have noticed that every season of Lost so far has generally followed two different plotlines. Season 1 \u2013 Surviving on the island and everybody getting to know each other. Season 2 \u2013 Learning about the hatch and the Dharma Initiative and getting to know the tail-section survivors. Season 3 \u2013 Desmond\u2019s weird psychic powers and getting to know The Others. Is this pattern intentional and if it is will this trend continue in the new shorter seasons? \u201C Damon Lindelof: We actually do design big arcing themes at the beginning of every season. So, you know, I would actually say that we do a little bit more than just two storylines. Like this year, it wasn\u2019t just about Desmond\u2019s psychic powers and telling Charlie that he was gonna die and learning more about The Others. And I think it was if anything, you know, the first construct that we were talking about for the entire season, aside from the meta-construct of unveiling The Others was Juliet. You know, really introducing this character. I think when you look back at season three and you watch it all in one burst you really see how much that one character, you know, drove the story and a lot of the conflict in almost every single episode. Ben, we had already introduced, we knew he was going to be the Big Bad and we\u2019ve done a lot of cool stuff with him this year as well. So I would also kinda put that under the \u2026 Ben\u2019s surgery is another sort of storyline that we did. Carlton Cuse: You know, no disrespect intended, but I would agree with FinnMacCool that those all fall under the category of getting to know The Others. Damon Lindelof: Getting to know The Others. Carlton Cuse: Yes. Damon Lindelof: Alright, fair enough. Carlton Cuse: Look, we design each season like a book. We see them as\u2026 We actually draw pretty little covers for them and we flip through them. Season three was sort of the season about The Others and we do design each season around a concept and really the first one was sort of the realization that they were actually stuck here on the island and sort of their kind of, you know, getting to know the island is actually a fair and each other is a fair statement. And season two was about the hatch and season three\u2019s about The Others and I think when you watch the finale you\u2019ll get a pretty good idea of what season four is gonna be about. You won\u2019t kinda necessarily know where it\u2019s gonna go, but we do launch the story in the direction that will define what the book of season four will be. Damon Lindelof: Alrighty, \u201CWalt\u2019s comic book and Jacob,\u201D by retinalscan, 156 posts in the last 90 days. Carlton, \u201CIn Walt\u2019s comic book, which was Flash and the Green Lantern, and I know you\u2019re not a huge comic book aficionado, but fortunately for both of us retinalscan breaks down the plot for us here. The Super Heroes capture an alien with powers. They think he is a threat, but he is not. The alien remains imprisoned for fifteen years, during which he contracts cancer from the radiation of the experiments. If I were that alien, I would say, \u2018Help me.\u2019 Is Jacob an alien or some type of nonhuman intelligence that is being held and used for human purposes?\u201D And do not dodge, my friend! Carlton Cuse: Wow. Damon Lindelof: Do not! Carlton Cuse: I have to dodge. I mean, if I don\u2019t dodge, you know, party\u2019s over. I mean\u2026 Damon Lindelof: So you\u2019re saying he could be an alien? Carlton Cuse: Well, no, he\u2019s not an alien. Damon Lindelof: Well there you go. That\u2019s a good answer. Carlton Cuse: Yeah, but the rest of it I\u2019m dodging. \u201CSeriously, was that the purge?\u201D by Muscle Bob Buff Pants, 63 posts in the last 90 days. \u201CD&C, please tell me that we will see more of the purge. That seemed way too quick and way too unfulfilling to be the war between the Dharmas and the Hostiles. What about Dr. Candle and his arm loss? What about Radzinsky and Kelvin? Where were they during the purge? Was this episode supposed to wrap up the Dharma storyline or only give us a taste of things to come?\u201D Damon Lindelof: Only a taste of things to come. I mean, I think we saw a good number of Dharma people get killed. Carlton Cuse: We don\u2019t really need to see them get gassed again. Damon Lindelof: Yeah, so you know, that was like the one fell swoop, but obviously, you know, there are definitely allusions earlier in the show, even when Ben was a kid, that there were, you know, skirmishes going on. Carlton Cuse: Right. Damon Lindelof: So like most wars. Like, for example, when the Redcoats sort of came over and started trying to keep the Colonists in line, the Colonists started attacking and attacking and attacking and attacking and gradually they began to sort of build up a militia and the next thing you know there was a full on revolution. So we sort of showed you a key\u2026 Wake up, Carlton. Carlton Cuse: I didn\u2019t realize we were doing American History here. By the way, when you get to like the Civil War, I\u2019d like you to wake me back up. Damon Lindelof: Alright, we will see how Dr. Candle lost his hand. Carlton Cuse: Yes, we definitely want to see\u2026 Damon Lindelof: And we will definitely find out how Montand lost his arm. Carlton Cuse: There\u2019s a lot\u2026 Next season is basically all about missing limbs. Damon Lindelof: Disembodied limbs season. Carlton Cuse: Exactly, I\u2019d like to see Rousseau\u2019s flashbacks. Damon Lindelof: Would you? Carlton Cuse: I really would. Damon Lindelof: So would I. Carlton Cuse: Yeah. Damon Lindelof: Maybe we should write them. Carlton Cuse: Oh, this is good. I mean, look there\u2019s definitely more to learn about the history of the Dharma Initiative. Damon Lindelof: As long as it has nothing to do with the American Revolution. Carlton Cuse: As long as it has nothing to do with American History. That\u2019s gonna be good. Damon Lindelof: \u201CJacob confined,\u201D posted by ItsallinHurleyshead, two posts in the last 90 days. \u201CDamon and Carlton, love the show, you guys are doing an awesome job. Is Jacob confined by Ben? I noticed in last night\u2019s episode the line that seems to be drawn on the ground in the cabin. I also noticed the same powdery substance was in the chair that he was sitting in. Was this substance made to confine him or is it just a nice side-benefit? Thanks and keep up the good work.\u201D Carlton Cuse: I think that there\u2019s kind of a couple of possible explanations. One explanation is that yes that substance combined with other things, perhaps might be keeping Jacob confined. The other explanation is that the Volcano that Annie was making spew out a lot of ash and that ash happened to fall in a nice symmetrical pattern around the cabin. Damon Lindelof: Yeah, what\u2019s up with Annie. I mean, that little girl that\u2026 If I may ask a little follow up because I\u2019m curious that Ben was hanging out with and made those\u2026 did he kill her in the purge, too? What happened? What\u2019s going on there? Carlton Cuse: I, you know\u2026 Damon Lindelof: Is that yet another question that you have no intention of answering? Carlton Cuse: I will answer that by saying that that is a chapter of Ben\u2019s story, that we very much would like to see in the show, Lost. Damon Lindelof: Alright, excellent, and now we know that we will since there\u2019s only 48 chapters left. Carlton Cuse: 48 tiles of the mosaic, my friend\u2026 Damon Lindelof: \u2026and 35 podcasts. Carlton Cuse: Why 35? Can we have a special double podcast? Damon Lindelof: I don\u2019t know Carlton Cuse: \u201CSharks and Shanties,\u201D by Ice Cold Dharma, two posts in the last 90 days. \u201CHey guys, after Man behind the Curtain I\u2019m sure you\u2019ll be bombarded with questions so I\u2019ll save you some time and ask the most important one: What the heck is that Dharma shark and where has it been since we last saw it? Does it have a name? Is it somehow related to the question of where Michael and Walt are? Have they been eaten by the shark? If not, will we be seeing it again? If you\u2019re having any trouble answering any of those questions, perhaps you can at least expand upon Jacob. Invisibility? Please don\u2019t say he\u2019s a character from Heroes. Maybe he\u2019s a phantom and not invisible at all. Maybe some sort of prisoner of Ben\u2019s and he was hidden in that shanty. Chase\u201D Damon Lindelof: Wow. I\u2019m much more comfortable talking about the Dharma shark and I think are we gonna see it again? Sure. One of thing that we learned this year is that the Hydra was a station that would be routinely flooded so that they could bring in sharks and dolphins and do experiments on them so\u2026 And we will reveal here, in a podcast exclusive, the Dharma shark does in fact have a name and his name is Jim. Carlton Cuse: No, I thought it was Ezra. Damon Lindelof: It is? Oh you\u2019re\u2026 Okay\u2026 Carlton Cuse: It\u2019s Ezra James. Damon Lindelof: Ezra James Sharkington. [both laugh] Damon Lindelof: So yes, you will be seeing Ezra James Sharkington and his phenomenal Dharma laden flashback. Now\u2026 Carlton Cuse: Wow, the podcast just jumped the shark, man. We were doing really well. We\u2019re never gonna make it through 35 more of these things. Damon Lindelof: Wait\u2026 Carlton Cuse: That\u2019s it! We\u2019re done! Ezra James Sharkington!? Damon Lindelof: You know how much people love the episode where we found out how Jack got his tattoos, well wait \u2018til you find out how Ezra James Sharkington got his Dharma tattoo. What if he got it\u2026 Wait\u2026 What if Ezra James Sharkington got his Dharma tattoo from Bai Ling? Then she could come back and finish that six episode arc she\u2019s talking about. He can be like, \u201CI will bite your face if you do not give me a Dharma tattoo!\" Carlton Cuse: We\u2019re never even gonna make it to next week\u2019s podcast. This is it. ABC\u2019s gonna pull us. Damon Lindelof: I totally buy that that shark could swim to Thailand. I\u2019m just saying, we\u2019ve done wackier stuff on this show. Carlton Cuse: That\u2019s true. How long can Bai Ling hold her breath? Damon Lindelof: Alright, Carlton, I\u2019m gonna bring it down with a little bit of a serious\u2026 This is my final question. Carlton Cuse: I thought that was a serious question. Lay it on me, baby. Damon Lindelof: \u201C\u2019Daddy love me\u2019 syndrome,\u201D posted by koot421, that\u2019s 31 posts in the last 90 days. \u201CTonight\u2019s episode was good, but seriously what\u2019s with this ongoing theme? Locke, Jack, Hurley, etc, and now Ben? Is everything alright with both of you at home? If disappointments can\u2019t be mended by both of you being part of a hit TV show, I don\u2019t think anything will solve them.\u201D That\u2019s the question. Carlton Cuse: I\u2019m laughing on the outside, but I\u2019m crying on the inside. Damon Lindelof: Oh my God, our lives are so miserable. Carlton Cuse: Oh jeez\u2026 You know, there\u2019s no easy answer to that question. Damon Lindelof: If anyone out there actually has an awesome relationship with their father, please, let us know all about it and we will\u2026 Carlton Cuse: Write us, so that we can share that vicariously Damon Lindelof: Yeah, we will create a character on the show who has an awesome relationship with their father and has slightly more interesting than a can of paint. Carlton Cuse: No\u2026 uh\u2026 Damon Lindelof: And his name can be Ezra James Sharkington. Carlton Cuse: Alright, well, guys, I hope you\u2019ve had as much fun as we have today. Alright, I\u2019m saying goodbye. Damon Lindelof: Bye-Bye. [End theme] Kris White: That\u2019s about it for this podcast. Thanks for joining us. Catch us again next time for a pre-hash of the season finale. Until then, be sure to check out lost.abc.com to submit your own fan questions or just relive the latest episodes. \u201CGreatest Hits\u201D airs Wednesday, May 16th from 10 to 11 p.m., only on ABC."@en . "Official Lost Podcast transcript/May 11, 2007"@en . "A transcript is a retrospective written record of dialogue, and like a script (a prospective record) may include other scene information such as props or actions. In the case of a transcript of a film or television episode, ideally it is a verbatim record. Because closed-captioning is usually written separately, its text may have errors and does not necessarily reflect the true Canonical transcript. Kris White: For Dom, he\u2019s always viewed his roles as a chance to do something he\u2019s never done, be well known for it then break the mold with something completely different. [Scene from Catch-22]"@en . . "11"^^ .